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Bolshevik, you’ve got that right! “In a cult odd behavior is normalized” - this is a big deal !!!!! Even after some 37 years of leaving a cult, I can still recall the dramatic change I saw in a way corps sister while I was in-residence. She was beautiful and vivacious…always upbeat. One block she was assigned to work housekeeping which included the Coachman Suite (same job mentioned in Kristen’s book). Over time there was a transformation in her demeanor…seemed preoccupied at meals instead of her bubbly self…maybe a little melancholy…never thought much of it at the time – because we were all under a lot of pressure in the corps program anyway…and I'm a guy - and don't pay a lot of attention to things like that anyway - I was too busy trying to be macho and endure "every way corps challenge" …of course, it’s possible she was never sexually molested during that job assignment – but it’s difficult to settle the issue in my mind with all the other incidents I’m aware of now , personal observations and red flags that scream for attention… ...I’m no psychologist or mental health therapist – but in 69 years of living I can tell the difference between someone who has faced typical challenges in school or on the job and someone who has been traumatized. There’s little doubt in my mind – she was deeply wounded. I’m out of touch with those in my corps…Hopefully her and her family left TWI and her well-being has improved.

Sounds very similar to the things Harvey Weinstein did and he's in jail now.

The top photo: My church. Opened 2010, newbuild, the previous old-fashioned traditional-design church on the same site having burned down, suspected arson (kids broke in to play, played with matches - wastebin - curtains - poof!). So the church claimed some insurance moneys and requested donations from the congregation, and our new modern church building, very flexible, was built. The tall part is the meeting room, next to it is front entrance with big lobby, offices to the left, and at back, another smaller (but still very big) meeting room used for children's activities. There's a fenced outdoor play area with grass and soft resin at the very back. The second photo: the community centre, immediately adjacent to the church. This scruffy "temporary" building has been there decades. My church met in it about once a month while the old church was demolished and then the new one built - the main congregation meeting weekly with the usual congregation at a different, sister, church half a mile away. (You can see a sliver of the new church in the background.) The community centre is on a large piece of land, with car parking, but has been neglected for over 6 maybe 8 years. Dilapidated, horribly overgrown, shrubs and small trees everywhere, building looking awful, rubbish abandoned underneath the building and out the back. Car park under 4" of compressed leaves. We bought it! In one month, we raised £240,000 in donations and sealed the deal last week. Painters are already restoring the interior. A working bee which about 40 adult members of the congregation attended cleared the carpark of all the fallen leaves over the deserted years, all the three and shrub overgrowth, all the rubbish.... hard work, but lots of fun. Some parents brought their little kiddies, who helped with their tiny spades, or carried twigs to the skip (dumpster). There's another working bee this coming Saturday; that'll be outside too, but there may be some inside stuff as well, like cleaning the kitchen and sanitary facilities. There's an 8 foot fence between the two parcels of land. Concrete posts, wire, and topped by several strands of barbed wire. Think that may be down in part this weekend, too. Eventually, the community centre will be demolished and the church, with its graceful lines, will be fully extended into the site, providing a larger church meeting hall, and more offices/smaller space, particularly for the youth activities. It's been wonderful over the last decade+ to see this community transformed. The feral youths have grown up, and are better young men for it, having learned discipline and decent manners at the church. Lonely single parents can meet others at Mums & Toddlers. Other single people can come to a free lunch on Wednesdays, with activities before and after the lunch. There's a youth club on Friday nights, where, among other things, table tennis is a popular activity (and one that teaches kids discipline and rules). There's at least one event at the church every day. All sorts of people on the surrounding housing estate see us as a place to get help and comfort. So - it's going to be exciting seeing the difference over the next decade, when the permanent building is erected and we can continue to glorify God in our service and expand our offering to the community. Please pray, if you're the praying sort, for the ongoing work and then the outreach.

Drifted? I power boated out of that bs! Funny you bring up "flesh". This is what was used to justify sinning repeatedly. Cause you know you can't sin in the spirit, just in the flesh and God don't care about that don't you know.

Just for the record, if wierwille’s ‘great principle’ is to be taken as a summation of the pattern in the Bible – then the postulate is wrong! summation = the process of adding all things together… wierwille’s ‘great principle’ does NOT take into account all Scripture. There are numerous Scriptures that defy wierwille’s ‘great principle’ – beginning with the most obvious event in Genesis 3 - God talking to Adam and Eve AFTER the Fall !!!!! If wierwille’s ‘great principle’ was designed to help students read the Bible with clear understanding – then wierwille’s ‘great principle’ is counterproductive, because it superimposes on certain passages a false description of how God works…The gaps in logic of God who is Spirit can only speak to what he is which is spirit and he teaches his creation in you & etc... not only overcomplicates and confuses a process – it also misrepresents how God works. Claiming wierwille’s ‘great principle’ was to help explain the established doctrine in the ancient scriptures is a false assertion for a couple of reasons: 1. There is no such thing as the established doctrine of the Bible – what group or organization was in charge of doing that? At best one can say the Bible is traditionally recognized as an ancient religious & sacred text. 2. Doctrine is a set of beliefs held and taught by a Church, political party, or other group; given the wide array of interpretations of the Bible it seems cautious to allow for freedom of thought and duty to one’s conscience to permit alternative viewpoints instead of being closedminded on one’s own ‘pet doctrine’. To claim that the ‘great principle’ was provided by God to us modern people, to help us understand better the ancient Biblical doctrine – is a deceptive way of imbuing it with divine authority – of which it has NONE…that’s why I’ve labeled it wierwille’s ‘great principle’ in this post - because it is based on his influence and we all know he was incompetent, a pathological liar, unabashed plagiarist, misogynistic, sexual predator, chain-smoking, drunkard, money-grubbing, megalomaniac, voracious wolf in sheep's clothing who had delusions of grandeur.

One way to face reality is to let oneself experience the pain. Then insight and growth can possibly happen. Or one can distort reality through a variety of means, avoiding the pain.

And yet, they are totally out of control. IOW, lacking coherence. IF he ever had any intention of doing anything other than aimless rambling, wouldn't he have to have an awareness of what and how his posts get lost in a miasma of nothingness?

My point was I think it was the wrong side doing the teaching. () How else would the robbing of peoples works, the stealing of people lives, the killing of peoples spirit, and the destrution of peoples willingness to question fit? SoCrates