Nottawayfer

You lied on your floss chart??? Now I really think less of you. LOL!

That's especially true if you are Christian and believe Mary conceived from sperm created by God. Was that sperm spirit?

I worked a job in California, and the District Manager from Columbus came for a visit. Her last name was Wierwille. I spoke to her, telling her I just moved from Ohio. She asked where. She said her husband grew up in New Knoxville. She asked why I was there. I told her I was involved with TWI. She said she wanted to see the Wierwille Crest at TWI. I told her she could call up Chico Smagnelli to ask him for a tour. I wonder if she did.

WOW was the best year of someone's life? I think I'm puking a little in my mouth too. GAK!! It's a great year if you want to put up with alcoholic verbal abuser who was just like your alcoholic father. It's a great year if you have a WOW sister who was busy banging two of her WOW brothers during the year. People are still in the mojo faze of purple haze if they think it's was a wonderful year. How about how much money you could make working 30 hours a week on minimum wage? Thankfully we waited tables and made more than minimum wage, plus we had 5 in our family. So we ate well, but I knew many who did not. It reminds me of people who worked on Staff and had an absolutely $h1tty time. Yet, they say they learned to much and are so thankful for the experience. It is similar to a bunch of people on the SS Enterprise who walk down the halls with a stone face saying "Bless you." If I never hear that phrase again, I'd be the happier. It was so fake and phoney, as it most things in TWI. I do have to give the alcoholic WOW brother credit though. He apologized to me just this last year about our WOW year. It was 26 years later.

Wasn't Paula Wigell on Staff until 1997 or 1998? Then she was sent out in the field. I remember to a southern state because she joked she wouldn't need all of her shoes. Was Paula Wigell Harve's sister?

Now is the time to do what you love and to live without regrets. We did what we did in TWI because we truly believed it was for God. We now know better, and we are better for it. ROCK ON Old Skool! My husband is a musician as well. He plays drums. He had a recording studio which took up half of our house when we got married. When he decided he wanted to remodel and put the house on the market, he closed up shop. He got calls daily from local bands about recording. He LOVES the engineering part of it. We got our house finished too late, and the market in Arizona tanked and tanked. We are still waiting. In the meantime, I see my husband really down at times because he misses his creative outlet. Thank God his buddy built a recording studio this past year. Hubby set up his drums and has his own key to the place so he can jam any time he wants. I want him to have his own studio again because he loves the engineering part so much.

This story reminds me of when they mandated a 10% pay cut from our already "Need-basis salaries". A few years later, we were told we would have a meeting with HR and Finance to go over our salaries because the 10% pay cut was no longer necessary. I carefully went over my budget, not asking for too much. The EFFERS never even met the 10% I lost. I lived on $648 a month for nearly 5 years. Staff didn't have to pay rent then, but it was hard to cover my need when I got a car, having to pay for insurance and gas. I was told to drive less and get only mandated insurance instead of full coverage. I had no savings for a new car. So if that car got totalled, I was SOL. Drive less....yeah right. We barely had time to go anywhere.

"Believing" as we were taught in TWI was pure and utter BS!! It took away God's power and replaced it with our own. It's rather ironic TWI mocked Mormons in their beliefs that they will become gods of their own worlds. TWI taught us to be our own sufficiency. It never really taught us to trust God. (((((((OldSkool and Family))))))) I'm so sorry you had to deal with so much crap. I'm so glad to know you guys are experiencing a more peaceful and abundant life with people who support you.

President's Publications was even a joke when I was on Staff. Before working at HQ, I thought Martindale was spending his days working the Word and writing magazine articles and developing teachings all day. After I started working in Word Processing, Pres Pub would have us type up whole teachings from Sunday Night Services. Then they would edit them and trim them down to a magazine article. I was unimpressed even then. Magazine articles were no more than rehashed teachings from the adulterer.

Frau Q-Tip ROLMAOPIMP!!! That is incredibly sad the young peeps cratered. That should speak volumes to them. Hopefully they look back, remember, and learn. NOBODY has the right to to that.

It's interesting to see how many think it such new information and it's so wonderful because it backs up what they believe. I remember a "brainiac" in fellowship explaining to me how a spiritualist could make an ash tray leave one place and show up in another place. He explained that atoms are made up of protons, nutrons, and electrons. There is space in between each of these elements within an atom. The space in the explanation for the suddenly appearing ash tray in another location. However, it didn't explain why you couldn't see it. Remember when the advanced class talked about psychic surger and how devil spirits influenced it? It was no more than slight of hand. My in-laws traveled to the Phillipines to have it. They are still sick today in their 80s. Levitation? I dunno how that was aexplained. It's just devil spirits you know.

This comes from an innie's FB account. The Double-Slit Test A bizarre discovery in the birth of Quantum Physics. In the first days of subatomic research, scientists like Max Planck, Albert Einstein, and on, were curious about the behavior of subatomic particles versus light waves. ... See More Common knowledge dictated that waves, made of energy, would act like waves, and particles, made of matter, would act like particles. But when they tested this hypothesis on subatomic particles, the results showed that they acted like waves. This blew their minds because it suggested there was a relationship between energy and matter that was bizarre and scientifically inexplicable. The double-slit test was developed and executed by Sir Geoffrey Ingram Taylor in 1909. It was designed to test these subatomic particles. The baffling results of this experiment disturbed the scientific world. Yet the experiment was performed again and again over the years with the same result every single time. It is actually a favorite experiment used in University Physics Departments because it is so reproducible and so baffling to the students. Click on the link below to see an explanation of this experiment and its bizarre results and what it suggested. [Click on the link and watch it before reading on] So you see the dilemma this caused for scientists. When they observed the experiment by measuring how the particles acted they acted differently than when they were not observed or measured. Since this is scientifically inexplicable, scientists ignored and avoided commenting on the results. It is painfully obvious by the reproducible results that AWARENESS changed the behavior of the wave/particle beam. Is awareness then a fundamental quality of the universe that has to be factored in to subatomic behavior? Does the universe itself have a mechanism built into it where the mere change of variables determines how it behaves, where a deliberate decision affects the outcome? When scientists decide to and actually measure and observe, it acts like a particle, when they decide to let it be and not watch, it acts like a wave. Why? Dr. Amit Goswami is a prominent physicist among a growing number of esteemed physicists who are facing this question more directly today. It is a fascinating question. Does it show the link between thought patterns and behavior and the results we get in life? We have heard of those who propose the "power of positive thinking." And more recently the proponents of The Secret and the Law of Attraction. The Bible teaches us that we receive what we believe, that all things are possible to him that believes, that all men reap what they sow (mentally and in life), that as a man thinks, so is he. Is the connection between the physical realm and the realm of thought somewhere at this subatomic level? Do we really affect and marshall the forces of the universe to bring us favorable results or unfavorable results based on our positive believing or negative fear? Is this why doubt, worry and fear brings us negative results, while trust, confidence and believing brings us positive ones? Is this part of the design of the universe that makes possible the connection between the spiritual realm and the physical realm? All this is suggested by these results and the work of Dr. Amit Goswami further confirms it with newer and more expansive experiments. We truly have a wondrous and bizarre world around us that we can enjoy discovering more and more. I don't think we've even scratched the surface of it yet. It is certainly someting to think about and to ponder. While it sparks my curiosity, could it be residual effects of the Koolaid I drank for so many years?

"Believing" was used as a crutch. Add "in the name of Jesus Christ", and it was a sealed deal and you said all the magic words. NEVER once in my almost 20 years in TWI did I ever hear anyone pray for God's will to happen. If whatever you believing for didn't come to pass, then you weren't believing.....clear and simple. If only it was that clear and simple. Simple-minded SOBs taught that crap.

I took the Advanced Class at the Emporia Campus. I was housed in a huge dorm room with 20 or more other women in their 20s. I woke up one morning to find a baggie of pot on the floor next to my bed. I knew it wasn't mine, and I was completely shocked someone would bring pot to the Adv Class. It had to belong to the girl in the bed above mine. That girl ended up hurting her leg badly, and the self-righteous wayfer I was made me believe she was hurt from her sin. I should have left with the pot. I would have become more enlightened than I was at that class.

HA really was a pervert. I remember meeting him at a Word in Business conference where we had to dress up cowboy style for a Texas BBQ. He had his red cowboy boots on. Another friend and I went over to greet him and commented on his red boots. He said he shined them up real good so he coult put his foot in the perfect place to see the reflection up girls' dresses......GAK! I remember seeing him at an ACS after I moved from HQ. He looked straight at my boobs, and said "You are looking REAL good!" It felt creepy. Ironicly, that ACS convinced me to get out of TWI. I left 2 weeks later.

I remember it being conveyed as: Other Christians would be there, but we were the faithful who would be eating at God's table. Thinking back, why would God be a Respector of persons? He wouldn't.

OMG does that bring back the legalism. Were were in the heighth of it being on Staff at HQ. The worst part was married couples who had different Dept coords with different rules. Some were more stringent, and others recognized the bullshirt and weren't so stringent. So much for speaking the same thing.

Don't you remember the FOREhead said he yelled because he cared and we would rather have him yell than Jesus Christ yelling at us at the bema. Even back then, I remember saying my my own mind that I'd rather have JC yell at me because it would be without the same judgment. That should have been my clue, but I drank the koolaid for too long.

Rockin! I'm so happy for your guys!! Life is DEFINITELY BETTER in VOLUMES outside twitville.

I remember my parents came to visit me at HQ. I talked my dad in to going to the STS, but I was freaked out because he REFUSED to dress up. He also REFUSED to stand when everyone else did. I dealt with a lot of emotional stuff that day and hoped nobody would confront me for having a "hard-hearted" visitor.

"The center of God's Will" was just another wayfer slogan. They were good and wording things without putting them in to action. Slogans were huge in TWI. The first one I heard was "You have to go to grow." That was in reference to the WOW field. They also said "You'll grow 10 years spiritually in one year by going WOW." How about "rightly-divided Word"? That was also a slogan to indicate they were the ones with the truth. The interesting thing about the center of God's will is that someone HAS to be on the outer sides. Not everyone can be right in the center. That would make God a respector of persons. How about this one: "power of God in manifestation". It made them sound they they had REAL connections to God. We know better now.

I'm surprised there weren't more restraining orders issued against wayfers. I remember having to go mall witnessing in 2001-2002, right after I moved from HQ to San Diego. There was one poor girl who worked at the Sunglass Hut. She didn't want to be rude, and she said she would come to fellowship. Since I talked to her, I was prodded and pushed by my MOG worshipping Fellowship coordinator to keep at her. I had to show up at this girl's house to pick her up. They would tell me she wasn't there even though she told me earlier she would go. I told my FC if she really wanted to be there, she would be. The FC wouldn't give up until I finally told her to do it herself. That FC was the worst, and this was when TWI was supposed to be kinder and gentler....BAH! That FC and her tactics encouraged me to leave. Thanks Jill for giving me the courage to be true to myself !

It was the beginning of our brainwashing to indoctrinate us to believe TWI was the only place with truth, and there is nowhere else to go. I struggled with that for awhile after leaving. Church was so distasteful to me. After going to a few Geerite and CES offshoot meetings, I wanted to throw up and realized TWI doctrine wasn't needed anymore. "The ministry is the Word" is another brainwashing tactic. "I have no friends when it comes to God's Word" keeps you away from anyway who might persuade you otherwise. This is why TWI was/is/and will be a cult. Back in 1986 or 87, our Branch coordinator told us not to read any letters coming from R*lph D*b*fsky because the letters carried devil spirits, and we should not expose ourselves to such evil. I think about this today and laugh.

And now their SNS videos don't pan the audience anymore because they can't even fill the bottom level.