Rocky

TWI is nothing if not all about magical thinking and narcissism. Rationalization to the Nth degree. As if "BUT GOD" has ordained this cult with special magical powers or something. Here's an illustration of twi's closed loop spiral... with illustrative perspective.

Blah blah blah. Yada yada yada. LAME excuse. Multiple people made the suggestion, YOU didn't heed the suggestion. That's on NO ONE but you. Could the REAL reason for your choice to not start a separate thread be... maybe you feared no one would engage with your nearly incoherent rambling? IDK. Nevertheless, it's STILL on you and you alone to either post or not post rather than derail other threads.

That somehow reeks of narcissism and insecurity. More than one person suggested you start a new thread (i.e. LIKE THIS ONE) instead of continuing to derail the other thread. Just say what you want to say and let go of the self-centered nonsense. Are you going to be criticized? Undoubtedly. Will it be personal criticism or rebuttal of what readers disagree with? Who cares? YOU come here to disagree. Either do it or go home (so to speak).

and no, I am not the source of Twinky's private message quoted in her comment.

Amor fati Here's where I embrace my fate of not having been one of the Captains of the Football Team in twi. I had no sexual conquests but I did engage in pre-marital sexual activity a time or twi during my time in thrall to the cult. Enough sexual activity to make me very thankful I was not one of the clergy or leader otherwise. I know I would have failed in some respects. Always believed it would have been improper for me to take advantage of (prey upon) women. But if they were to come on to me during that time of my life, I am self-aware enough to recognize it could have been a huge stumbling block for me.

I still believe it's legitimate and fair to characterize Wierwille's schtick as hypnotism. Some bought the suggestions, some didn't. Those who saw through it, didn't stick.

I'd probably ask he/she/it to wait until I got a pen and paper so I could write it down.

Even after starting a new thread/topic was pointed out and suggested to Mike.

And this eye roll is about the entirety of Mike's rambling, rationalizing comment.

Bless his heart, Mike is nothing if not persistent in his Quixotic endeavor to rationalize what he believes is the NON error of Wierwille's ways and teaching. My "first thought" when reading his latest post had something to do with an essay Princeton (University, not divinity school) Philosophy Prof (emeritus) Harry Frankfurt once wrote on the massive proliferation of BS in modern life. But I'm thankful for those who rebutted Mike's malarkey.

I can say AMEN to that. Idk about a prompter, but it seems obvious that they amplified the applause sound quite a bit.

THAT is an I statement. Initially you implied others were wrong. Even if others WERE wrong, I statements work, insinuations, not as much. Nevertheless, You could indeed start a new thread to carry on your discussions w/Nathan and T-bone and it would be ON your new topic.

Gaslighting. BTW, not everyone here is familiar with how insidiously he has OFTEN derailed and taken over threads by BAITING people into bickering unrelated to the topic intended by the OP. Please don't take Mike's bait.

You thought wrong.

even more.

Bottom line, Mike, you're making a claim that you only support with insinuation and NOT with any proof that any of us here are or were factually incorrect. I'd pose questions to you about it, but WE ALL know that you are capable of masterful obfuscation. And you're effort to derail this thread is totally OFF TOPIC anyway.

Are you now suggesting that YOU were the "voice" of Wierwille?

ummmmm..... at some point after you took the PFLAP class, the closing apparently changed.

Except that it's about actual history of TWI. Not a discussion of politics. My question to you is, do you recall Wierwille ranting about the concept, or do you not? Not whether you approve of the notion of interdependence or even agree with it.

Clear and precise. Well-stated.

Apparently nobody who wanted to remain in the "household" of twi.

Indeed.

Some of us realize the same thing... but we weren't necessarily raised in a home with such an intense parent. Thankfully, you have a community here who can support your journey.

Rereading that comment (the entire comment), to me it seems even more salient and awe inspiring that the GSC member who calls herself BecomingMe chose that moniker.

I don't recall for sure, but that could be the case.