templelady

If only I could Melt into a greasespot NO MORE DIETING But, Alas, I am still solid --> Just one more thing LCM was wrong about (like he needs more to add to the list) However, I am very proud to be a Greasespotter!!! :)-->

I Ebay a lot Got two e-mails tonight that looked like e-mails from sellers asking shipping directions. Both were infected by trojans :(--> BOth were zapped by my McAfee :)--> Warning!!!! these e-mail have item numbers etc just Like Ebay I didn't even open them!!! placing my cursor into position triggered the trojans McAfee cleaned them I went to delete them And the Trojans were activated again-- No Attachment included just highlighting to delete triggers this trojan Running full McAfee scan now on system BEware

Oldie, It is clear that when faced with first hand reports of things done in TWI or with personal feelings of other posters your response is invariably to cloud the issue and ignore the hearts of your fellow posters. It isn't your steadfast support of your beliefs that is the problem it is your total inability to have any compassion for the pain/hurt of your fellow posters. You may very well feel compassion/empathy/understanding for the rest of us , but it sure doesn't manifest itself in your posts

EX don't you dare put yourself down I wasn't committed to VPW ever but that is only because he made my skin crawl--- and I never met the man! ANd I still tried to conform to his view of the world. You at least have the excuse that you believed in the man. What excuse to I have for trying to conform to the edicts of a man who made my skin crawl???? YOU my lovely Ex are not nor have you ever been sh it and don;t you think elsewise

Oldies Try to understand this it doesn't take a "victims" mentality to be affected by A person with Narcissistic Personality Disorder like VPW or LCM. How disengenuous --just exactly who do you think was giving the directions for "your TWI world" ?? THe teachings the songs the organizations The Rules the Assignments TWI was .headed by VP or LCM depending when you were in, that's who THe evil flowed from the top down--You apparently got lucky and missed the evil-- I was a saved Christian before I joined so the evil that was done to me and mine far outweighed any benefits. ANd even if You received all the good you claim to have --you seem unwilling to face the fact that the good you received was at the cost of your brothers and sisters in CHrist who were done evil. For you To try and claim that any benefits you or others received negates the incredible evil that was perpetuated on others leaves me in a state of horrified wonderment

Hope your special day is filled with sunshine Happy birthday

I decided to find out what has kept this disccussion going for 10 pages. I am guessing that it is the following ad http://www.excultworld.com/About_The_Way.htm It all seems pretty straight forward to me 1. TWI didn't want it when it was avaiable 2. Pat took it since they didn't 3. THey want it now 4. It was up for sale (see above ad )and TWI didn't buy it 5. PAt is having way too much fun --> 6. Everyone involved is going to spend way over $15,000 in actual lawyer, fees, expenses, time, briefs , motions etc etc etc. So TWI if you want it (and I know you are out there ) post a bid on this thread. Because the way I see it after all this discussion and carrying on any judge with half his salt is going to tell all parties to stop acting out and come to an agreement and quit wasting his and the courts time.

HAppy Happy Birthday to you

You did it again Oldie-- You upped the ante from to There is a vast chasm between "checking out... " and "couldn't care less..." I have a lot of friends that are not LDS I am. THey ask questions from time to time and I answer them ..but I don't feel the need to have them sitting next to me on Sunday in order to keep them as friends I have a lot of friends who are into serious exercise I'm not. But I understand that from 8-9 every morning is not the time to call them unless blood is flowing I have friends who aren't into genealogy I am. But they understand when I answer the phone and begin talking about the new GGG Grandmother I finally located--it might be a good idea to schedule something for the next day because I'm on a role. I have a friend who is into music collecting I'm not. But just like he listens to my burbling about geneaology I enjoy listening to his excitement about his newest aquisition that he's been looking for for 20 years. I may not have the level of enthusiam or interest he has for the subject but his elation makes me elated. The Idea that one has to believe what you believe, like what you like or isn't worth having around is the same ideology that makes people commit suicide while smashing planes into tall buildings.

My ex husband, My tc, my branch/limb leader, most of the corps in the area....I think I see a pattern here. No wonder I've clung to my platonic relationship with CJ--for 5 years now (we've known each other for 18) just too afraid I'll be back in the hands of A Narcissist--

hope your day is wonderful

Up from the grave He arose, With a mighty triumph o'er His foes. He arose a victor from the dark domain. And he lives for ever with His saints to reign. He arose ! He arose! Hallelujah! Christ arose!

HAppy Happy Bday to You!

Considering that"Piffle"gave me an almost continuous headache from trying to contort my brain into correlating what was said about the Bible versus what was printed in the BIble--- I am so thankful I was Spared WAP-- You all have my sympathy

NO flames Johnny--It is what you make of it--good people who maintain their goodness get good-- The fact that the abuser of my children was 10th corps does not tar all of you with the same brush.

Pinata's I'm told Easter wqs always a religious holiday in my house so aside from a small easter egg hunt we didn't do much when I was a kid.

GOD doesn't expect you to do the whole job. Many people think GOd isn't answering because they aren't doing enough. Often times its because you are trying to do it All. When you try to do "more" or "it all" it's YOU doing instead of GOD doing. Step back- relax get the "musts" and the "shoulds" out of your head and let GOD tell you what he wants you to do. It may be a simple as helping weed someones yard. Then let GOD guide you. Most people forget that "my yoke is easy and my burden is light" If its heavy and weighing you down you're carrying a burden God never intended or wants you to have I don't want to sound preachy like this is all your fault and that really isn't what I intend to convey. But I think all of us have a tendency to think we are the linch pin when really we are just tiny cogs. I pray things get lighter and brighter in your world

Anchorage water is good--but I hate seattle water and I always drink filtered water in spokane

There is a gap in dates because I temple lady started this thread several weeks ago--not last year

I liked it I learned some new things about the diversity of early christianity. I have to admit that IN MY PERSONAL OPINION much of Christianity are followers of Paul rather than followers of Jesus Christ. Paul had his moments when he just vented. I wish thay had gone more into what happened to the writings of the rest of the apostles-- I often wonder if we would be a diferent kind of Christianity if say JAmes comprised most of the NT. Just pondering aloud--but I did enjoy it

CAdbury Roses??? I remeber cadbury fruit and nut eggs-- the big ones about the size of a goose egg--can't find those here -->

PAt, I think you have bigger and better fish to fry- I say $1,000 just for the aggravation of having to deal with the court paperwork-- Let them have the name--They are getting publicity from this as the "Wronged" party (whether they are or not is inmaterial, perception is everything) Let them claim this paltry "victory". Far more important than winning this skirmish is winning the war (ps edit in word pad or some other program then paste--with this"new" instant post there isn't enough time to get it edited before th opinions flow

THe more I look around the more I realize just how insidiously TWi perverts even the soundest of Church doctrine. We are exhorted in Scripture to avoid Idle Gossip (which covers 98% of TWI fact gathering) At the same time the church provided an avenue for one to turn in a brother or sister who was seriously out of fellowship--adultry --stealing etc to the leaders so that the Brother or sister in Christ could be Lovingly exhorted to keep the gospel. If this failed then the next step was to withhold fellowship until the sin was removed from the persons life and they were then welcomed back with open arms. TWI decided the operation could be streamlined 1> actively collect every bit of fact, gossip and innuendo and regard it as true 2> Yell and scream an the already tried, judged, and found guilty parties 3> if said parties refuse to agree to the often bogus charges-- M&A them for all eternity and smear their names with all other belivers This means that TWI DOES NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE FACTUALITY OF THE ALLEGATIONS, REQUIRES NO EFFORT TO SUPPORT AND PROVIDE LOVING GUIDENCE-AND ELIMINATES THE POSSIBILITY OF EVER DEALING WITH TAHT PERSON AGAIN. So Nice so tidy so completely unscriptual. TWI's WAYGB reminds me of Hitler's Germany where children told on parents and neighbor spied on neighbor. (here's another post for you WAYGB to add to my 22 year old file :D-->)

Ever noticed a theme with TWI? You take perfectly good piece of scripture and put a twist on it Alcoholism is Leviathan- This big huge MOnster--Gee you can't expect just a mere man to be able to control A monster now can you ? --Need another shot of Drambuie to deal with that-- Leviathan ---used once in JOb, twice in Psalms, and Once in Isaiah- has always, outside of TWI, been taught to me as representative of Satan and the outreach, if you will, of his kingdom. He is a prince in his own right-a fallen, rebellious prince but a prince. It is he who takes Jesus Christ to the mountain tops and shows him the whole of the earth --all to be Jesus' in return for worshiping Satan-- It is this kingdom of Satan's in it's totallity that is Leviathan. Most assuredly alcoholism, adultry etc are just some of the "Fruits" of that kindom but they ae not Leviathan in and of themselves.

YEah I think of all of them--I have no contact with them for a variety of reasons usually because we just lost touch--But I remember them all some fondly and othrrs its good they are gone