. . . Where are the paintings of Noah and the flood? Moses and the burning bush? David slaying Goliath? Jesus with his disciples? The empty tomb? Paul confronting the Pharisees?
You betcha.. Statues of Timothy and the great Vic, but none of Christ.. Only the absent Christ.. And to think they publicly proclaim such a thing. They definitely try everything to keep him absent from there. :(
I seem to remember that wierwille thought displaying pictures of Jesus....was idolatry.
IIRC......he explained that no one knows what Jesus looked like and to replicate him in a picture would be a man-made image. And that, would be idolatry.
The dove was the accepted, all-encompassing symbol of spiritual expression and indwelling.
I seem to remember that wierwille thought displaying pictures of Jesus....was idolatry.
IIRC......he explained that no one knows what Jesus looked like and to replicate him in a picture would be a man-made image. And that, would be idolatry.
And we know what Timothy looked like? Or was the Timothy statue done later?
they have pictures of Jesus . . . course, they still have a few crosses too.
When I was in, displaying a picture of Jesus made you an idolater. Crosses were called "devil's dog whistles". Are you saying TWI has backtracked on those 2 things?
When I was in, displaying a picture of Jesus made you an idolater. Crosses were called "devil's dog whistles". Are you saying TWI has backtracked on those 2 things?
Yes and no. The BRC is loaded with crosses and they say they leave it for historical purposes to help remember where VeePee lead us out from, or some such drivel. I believe images of Jesus are the same....I seem to remember religious imagery of Jesus floating around the place. Bolsh, was that in the Founders Room in founders hall?
Yes and no. The BRC is loaded with crosses and they say they leave it for historical purposes to help remember where VeePee lead us out from, or some such drivel. I believe images of Jesus are the same....I seem to remember religious imagery of Jesus floating around the place. Bolsh, was that in the Founders Room in founders hall?
So.....twi can display crosses in the brc, but YOU can't wear crosses because they "give off spiritual vibes that attract devil spirits?" Huh?
Same with wierwille's porn.......HE can own it, but YOU can't. If wierwille owns it, the devil spirits will not mess with him. But if YOU have pornography, that's a no-no.
Yes and no. The BRC is loaded with crosses and they say they leave it for historical purposes to help remember where VeePee lead us out from, or some such drivel. I believe images of Jesus are the same....I seem to remember religious imagery of Jesus floating around the place. Bolsh, was that in the Founders Room in founders hall?
Founders Hall last I remembered. And most of that artwork is gifts from people over the years. The Founders Room in the auditorium has the wall of people VP plagiarized from mostly, and curio cabinets. And that d@mn mantle piece disassembled from France and re-assembled there. What a colossal waste of time, money, and resources.
So.....twi can display crosses in the brc, but YOU can't wear crosses because they "give off spiritual vibes that attract devil spirits?" Huh?
Same with wierwille's porn.......HE can own it, but YOU can't. If wierwille owns it, the devil spirits will not mess with him. But if YOU have pornography, that's a no-no.
That's typical with them. Do as I say and not as I do.
Silly example. I have seen Rosalie and Donna (at different times) driving the wrong way on their posted directional streets in the way woods. Coming out of the way woods, going the wrong way to drive into the PWA circle drive so they can get to the next meeting.
Now let you or I do that very same thing and be spotted by one of those two. They would personally make sure we were raked over the coals so we were NEVER were in such a hurry again.
That's typical with them. Do as I say and not as I do.
Silly example. I have seen Rosalie and Donna (at different times) driving the wrong way on their posted directional streets in the way woods. Coming out of the way woods, going the wrong way to drive into the PWA circle drive so they can get to the next meeting.
Now let you or I do that very same thing and be spotted by one of those two. They would personally make sure we were raked over the coals so we were NEVER were in such a hurry again.
yep
I got "reproved" by a certain cabinet person for not recognizing Donna's car. I finally walked up to the stupid thing, opened up the gas door and found the damned yellow sticker.
This, after "harassing" a young staffer for not having his yellow sticker on the lower (right/left?) corner of the window. He thought it would be cool to have it in the center.
Anal fu#@s we were. But no, Donna was the exception.
Yes and no. The BRC is loaded with crosses and they say they leave it for historical purposes to help remember where VeePee lead us out from, or some such drivel. I believe images of Jesus are the same....I seem to remember religious imagery of Jesus floating around the place. Bolsh, was that in the Founders Room in founders hall?
oh I know who ask about that one lol. . .
though there was the one in the auditorium, off to the left, him gazing over Jerusalem?
Though I would agree vpw etc images were more prominent . . . bible imagery was there . . .
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they have at least some of these around HQ
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But no "pictures" of Jesus - that's idolatry.
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You betcha.. Statues of Timothy and the great Vic, but none of Christ.. Only the absent Christ.. And to think they publicly proclaim such a thing. They definitely try everything to keep him absent from there. :(
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I seem to remember that wierwille thought displaying pictures of Jesus....was idolatry.
IIRC......he explained that no one knows what Jesus looked like and to replicate him in a picture would be a man-made image. And that, would be idolatry.
The dove was the accepted, all-encompassing symbol of spiritual expression and indwelling.
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And we know what Timothy looked like? Or was the Timothy statue done later?
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they have pictures of Jesus . . . course, they still have a few crosses too.
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When I was in, displaying a picture of Jesus made you an idolater. Crosses were called "devil's dog whistles". Are you saying TWI has backtracked on those 2 things?
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Yes and no. The BRC is loaded with crosses and they say they leave it for historical purposes to help remember where VeePee lead us out from, or some such drivel. I believe images of Jesus are the same....I seem to remember religious imagery of Jesus floating around the place. Bolsh, was that in the Founders Room in founders hall?
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So.....twi can display crosses in the brc, but YOU can't wear crosses because they "give off spiritual vibes that attract devil spirits?" Huh?
Same with wierwille's porn.......HE can own it, but YOU can't. If wierwille owns it, the devil spirits will not mess with him. But if YOU have pornography, that's a no-no.
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Founders Hall last I remembered. And most of that artwork is gifts from people over the years. The Founders Room in the auditorium has the wall of people VP plagiarized from mostly, and curio cabinets. And that d@mn mantle piece disassembled from France and re-assembled there. What a colossal waste of time, money, and resources.
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Oh, they have that disaster in the PWA now, where they shake hands during the advanced class. Forgot the name of the room. Upstairs on the left.
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Crosses are idolatry? Did Weirwille just try to do things differently so he'd be recognized?
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Yes. Any huckster worth his weight in wienershnitzle knows the value of a good schtick.
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That's typical with them. Do as I say and not as I do.
Silly example. I have seen Rosalie and Donna (at different times) driving the wrong way on their posted directional streets in the way woods. Coming out of the way woods, going the wrong way to drive into the PWA circle drive so they can get to the next meeting.
Now let you or I do that very same thing and be spotted by one of those two. They would personally make sure we were raked over the coals so we were NEVER were in such a hurry again.
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yep
I got "reproved" by a certain cabinet person for not recognizing Donna's car. I finally walked up to the stupid thing, opened up the gas door and found the damned yellow sticker.
This, after "harassing" a young staffer for not having his yellow sticker on the lower (right/left?) corner of the window. He thought it would be cool to have it in the center.
Anal fu#@s we were. But no, Donna was the exception.
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oh I know who ask about that one lol. . .
though there was the one in the auditorium, off to the left, him gazing over Jerusalem?
Though I would agree vpw etc images were more prominent . . . bible imagery was there . . .
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It is you...ROFL!
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it is you, we adore, only you(apologies to Newsboys)
egads, now going to have nightmares singing that praise song with Wierwille's face haunting me.
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Ham
Have they considered using a Ouija board? There's even an online version..
http://www.witchboard.com
Linder could try it. Supposed to be immune to spirits and all anyway..
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Oooh, oooh rosie, it gave us an "m".. and an "o".. ... r, e, d, r a m.... b....."
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How does one in TWI become immune to sprrruts anyway? exceptional believing? exceptional discipline? carry a hand gun and chamber it often?
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You have to stay "En garde!".
Sheesh! Weren't you listening during the DWA class??
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Oh, Thanks!!
Ya, must've ran out of Jolly Ranchers just before that session.
Jolly Ranchers were the only way I could stay awake
and were actually recommended from a class assistant because of their sharp taste. 
Guess the product pales in comparison to Jolly Ranchers.
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