Personally I think he understood marriage as much as he understood the original Greek and Hebrew... And if you think he knew either of those... Well, I have a nice oceanfront island to sell you [Did I mention it is at the bottom]
That must be why in the newer regurgitation (oops.. iteration?) of that class, "Living God's Word as a Family", is at pains to emphasize the monogamous marriage. Back when I took that in 2004, I had been around about 4 years, and NO idea about the sordid past of the way. I found that out MUCH later, when I got a computer. No wonder RR despises the interwebs so much...
actually.. why have WIVES when you can have an inner circle of underhanded, ruthless cutthroats and worse who can supply you with a steady stream of DISPOSABLE women?
i am not an expert on polygamy - but i am aspiring to be an expert on the HBO series "Big Love" .....and not that i think polygamy is ok or anything but on the show the main character played by Bill Paxton showed genuine commitment, concern, support and care for his 3 wives.
given that ideal presented in "Big Love" - i would have to say vp was not a polygamist in terms of making any matrimonial commitments - he was a sexual predator - plain and simple, who used the "ministry" as a cloak to hide his unconscionable behavior.
Exodus 21:10 If he take him another wife; her food, her raiment, and her duty of marriage, shall he not diminish.
11 And if he do not these three unto her, then shall she go out free without money.
In OT times, if a man took another wife, he had exactly the same duty to support all of them completely. Not permitted to favor the new wife above the wife of his youth (no sporting the new trophy wife over the wife who's now old and wrinkled). And still has to treat the new wife/wives properly too.
I believe that in countries where polygamy is practiced, that's till the case. Can't show any favoritism. Must treat them all the same - generously. Feed them, clothe them, treat them lovingly.
Well, Dotsie was fed and clothed...don't know about the duty of marriage (sexual intercourse).
If a "spiritual" marriage, he has exactly the same duties to all his other "wives". (Sorry, Excathedra). Man, no wodner he needed so much ABS coming in...to support all those "wives".
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JavaJane
Reminds me of the motivation for the group weddings at HQ for some reason...
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Well you know, "any two believers can make a marriage work."
I mean, really, just look at what a wonderful, monogamous, loving example VPW and Dottsie were.
(Ouch!, I think I just bit my tongue.)
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krys
He wasn't a polygamist! He was just a dirty old man.
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Hahaha!
Yeah, I agree.
I was just trying to keep it within the framework of how he, himself, defined "marriage".
Soooooo.... The MOG was a DOM....I likes it!
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krys
He defined marriage? He defamed marriage.
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Personally I think he understood marriage as much as he understood the original Greek and Hebrew... And if you think he knew either of those... Well, I have a nice oceanfront island to sell you [Did I mention it is at the bottom]
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what a f'ing pig and i mean that as a spiritual event lol
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Watered Garden
So is rape a "spiritual event?" I hadn't thought much CF&S but I must have not paid attention when he said that.
How totally weird it sounds now.
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That must be why in the newer regurgitation (oops.. iteration?) of that class, "Living God's Word as a Family", is at pains to emphasize the monogamous marriage. Back when I took that in 2004, I had been around about 4 years, and NO idea about the sordid past of the way. I found that out MUCH later, when I got a computer. No wonder RR despises the interwebs so much...
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krys
What they say and what they do often are not the same thing.
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actually.. why have WIVES when you can have an inner circle of underhanded, ruthless cutthroats and worse who can supply you with a steady stream of DISPOSABLE women?
No, they weren't his wives..
no *real* commitment on his part..
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i am not an expert on polygamy - but i am aspiring to be an expert on the HBO series "Big Love"
.....and not that i think polygamy is ok or anything but on the show the main character played by Bill Paxton showed genuine commitment, concern, support and care for his 3 wives.
given that ideal presented in "Big Love" - i would have to say vp was not a polygamist in terms of making any matrimonial commitments - he was a sexual predator - plain and simple, who used the "ministry" as a cloak to hide his unconscionable behavior.
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Ham
and if he really taught his men(?) da "greatness of da WORD".. in doctrine and practice, why did they go along with it?
I guess the concept is "no friends when it comes to da word" only when it is not convenient..
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Exodus 21:10 If he take him another wife; her food, her raiment, and her duty of marriage, shall he not diminish.
11 And if he do not these three unto her, then shall she go out free without money.
In OT times, if a man took another wife, he had exactly the same duty to support all of them completely. Not permitted to favor the new wife above the wife of his youth (no sporting the new trophy wife over the wife who's now old and wrinkled). And still has to treat the new wife/wives properly too.
I believe that in countries where polygamy is practiced, that's till the case. Can't show any favoritism. Must treat them all the same - generously. Feed them, clothe them, treat them lovingly.
Well, Dotsie was fed and clothed...don't know about the duty of marriage (sexual intercourse).
If a "spiritual" marriage, he has exactly the same duties to all his other "wives". (Sorry, Excathedra). Man, no wodner he needed so much ABS coming in...to support all those "wives".
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My point was that he was a polygamist by his own definition, which I outlined in the original post
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T-Bone
yeah, and by his own imagination he was THE man of god "in this day and time and hour".
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waysider
Only thing i can figure is there must have been some kind of MOG shortage at the time.
Or maybe he just "embellished " his resume to get the job.
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So_crates
Embellished? His whole life was a work of fiction. And not really good fiction at that.
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Ham
what is even the need for a resume..
sorry the kid and grandkid feel the same..
I hope the miserable bastards don't practice the same kind of polygamy. Of course, that is wishful thinking..
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Ham
whatever happened to Sherrie.. excuse the miss-spell..
yeah. what ever happened to the first wife. The mother of your offspring..
fair question, isn't it?
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Well, there's "physical" polygamy and then there's "spiritual" polygamy, dontcha know?
Haha!---Just playing off of Wierwille's old rationalization that adultery in the Bible is supposedly "spiritual" adultery.
He taught it. Then he thumbed his nose at it in defiance. He was about as spiritually tuned in as my old crystal radio.
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Who is Sherrie?
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In light of the subject at hand, would "first" be an appropriate descriptor?
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