“This package is called “Jesus Christ Revolution” and will show the major impact Dr. Wierwille had on the Jesus Movement that occurred in the late 1960s-1970s…”
Major impact, indeed.
Jesus himself already told us the impact victor paul wierwille would have on his movement.
That about said it. He took a vibrant, vital, genuine movement among God's people and diverted it into a less-vital cash cow for his pocket. In that respect, vpw was the first "Stump" Coordinator- someone who starts with an active group and micromanages it to pieces.
I'm not sure what would have happened, but the imact of the Jesus People movement was somewhat blunted by vpw subverting some of its people to shill classes.
His biggest impact on history-and Christianity- was to IMPEDE it.
this one I found on the internet which I liked for its cultural authenticity.
You nailed it. Lovely faces. Lovely movement. Lovely wardrobes. Conveys much more authenticity. Thank you, Charity. Probably (I surmise) because New Knoxville doesn't get to lord it over these people.
Excuse my lackadaisical response to your comment "That's the most inauthentic piece of "art!" I may have ever seen." Concerning the 7 different forms of art, when I was teaching Grade 1, my students learned literature and media arts (which touched on cinema) as part of the Language arts program, as well as dance, drama and visual arts as part of the Arts curriculum. Visual arts included some messy lessons about painting and sculpture which pretty much meant working with plasticine . (Thank goodness the music section was taught by a qualified music teacher.) That just leaves architectural arts which was covered in our science classes. God, I miss those times. It was a lot of fun for me and the kids.
You nailed it. Lovely faces. Lovely movement. Lovely wardrobes. Conveys much more authenticity. Thank you, Charity. Probably (I surmise) because New Knoxville doesn't get to lord it over these people.
A long, long time ago... will never forget the first time I set foot on HQ... hitchhiked from Emporia (6 Corp), landed in the BRC.
Looks like a groovy scene. And the music sounds good. I sense that these kids were doing just fine by themselves and among themselves. This was definitely my vibe in my late teens and early twenties.
Too bad victor had to destroy it.
Who is the preacher teacher in the opening 3 minutes?
I recognized his voice right away. ROA 72 was 51 years ago. Amazing to consider.
Salient to me in the first minute of Craley's soliloquy was his statement that news people would be there to try to understand the phenomenon which was TWI at that time.
Of course, that was only the beginning of a much longer journey to understand said phenomenon. I'm thankful we have a MUCH better grasp of the issue/subject today than anyone in society was able to figure out (without becoming engrossed/engulfed) in the high demand subculture at the time.
Not that we have a full understanding of it even still...
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annio
i.e. the Jesus Revolution movie cut...
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Going to see this on Sunday.
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On this topic ... TWI is using the same phrase, The Jesus Christ Revolution.
81st Anniversary Celebration Updates - The Way International News and Events
I never thought I'd see the day when TWI was still grinding out the same old VPW teachings and pulling in the cash. Will this never END?
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Rocky
That's the most inauthentic piece of "art!" I may have ever seen.
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“This package is called “Jesus Christ Revolution” and will show the major impact Dr. Wierwille had on the Jesus Movement that occurred in the late 1960s-1970s…”
Major impact, indeed.
Jesus himself already told us the impact victor paul wierwille would have on his movement.
John 10:10a
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That about said it. He took a vibrant, vital, genuine movement among God's people and diverted it into a less-vital cash cow for his pocket. In that respect, vpw was the first "Stump" Coordinator- someone who starts with an active group and micromanages it to pieces.
I'm not sure what would have happened, but the imact of the Jesus People movement was somewhat blunted by vpw subverting some of its people to shill classes.
His biggest impact on history-and Christianity- was to IMPEDE it.
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Mmmph
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Charity
Rocky, are you referring to this? Is it new?
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Rocky
No, that's not it.
I was referring to the dance routine by African (American) believers. That was SOOOOOO not what one would reasonably expect from Black people.
It was what the white wayfer dancers did. e.g. this lame nonsense.
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Rocky
This link captures how I think of art and artistic expression by humans.
https://proactivecreative.com/different-types-of-art/
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Charity
Big difference between the group twi showed on their website 81st Anniversary Celebration Updates - The Way International News and Events and this one I found on the internet which I liked for its cultural authenticity.
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You nailed it. Lovely faces. Lovely movement. Lovely wardrobes. Conveys much more authenticity. Thank you, Charity. Probably (I surmise) because New Knoxville doesn't get to lord it over these people.
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Excuse my lackadaisical response to your comment "That's the most inauthentic piece of "art!" I may have ever seen." Concerning the 7 different forms of art, when I was teaching Grade 1, my students learned literature and media arts (which touched on cinema) as part of the Language arts program, as well as dance, drama and visual arts as part of the Arts curriculum. Visual arts included some messy lessons about painting and sculpture which pretty much meant working with plasticine
. (Thank goodness the music section was taught by a qualified music teacher.) That just leaves architectural arts which was covered in our science classes. God, I miss those times. It was a lot of fun for me and the kids.
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penguin2
Except that the lyrics are from HQ way prod.
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Rocky
Oh well...
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Charity
Hi, what's the name of the song? I found it hard to hear the words other that the "together" part.
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Rocky
Same here. Which is probably why it didn't matter much to me what the lyrics were, I just enjoyed the video.
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penguin2
Looks like a year ago lots of countries were encouraged to sing and record this song. There's several versions listed on the Way YouTube channel.
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Charity
Thanks, penguin2.
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Rocky
Meh. I understand the words better but still find this group to be somewhat more inauthentic than the lovely people from Gabon.
Bless their hearts.
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A long, long time ago... will never forget the first time I set foot on HQ... hitchhiked from Emporia (6 Corp), landed in the BRC.
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Looks like a groovy scene. And the music sounds good. I sense that these kids were doing just fine by themselves and among themselves. This was definitely my vibe in my late teens and early twenties.
Too bad victor had to destroy it.
Who is the preacher teacher in the opening 3 minutes?
I love how victor contradicts himself at 4:50.
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Dave Craley
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I recognized his voice right away. ROA 72 was 51 years ago. Amazing to consider.
Salient to me in the first minute of Craley's soliloquy was his statement that news people would be there to try to understand the phenomenon which was TWI at that time.
Of course, that was only the beginning of a much longer journey to understand said phenomenon. I'm thankful we have a MUCH better grasp of the issue/subject today than anyone in society was able to figure out (without becoming engrossed/engulfed) in the high demand subculture at the time.
Not that we have a full understanding of it even still...
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