Good Lord, will they never learn. I bet the conversations at the class had to be about what they had just learned too, over and over and over and over again until it's barf time.
A good marketing ploy. Time to repackage and update their indoctrination film. Throw a little 21st century razzle dazzle to the old format, and presto, we have a modern version of what used to work. The only problem is that they don't have Mr Wierwille to teach it anymore. Perhaps that's another reason why they will have multiple teachers, there's no one left with enough personal charisma to hold anyone's attention. They have to alter the teachers to avoid killing the student with boredom. Although, it may be a wise move on their part to ease away from martinfail's wildass doctrines and revert back to Vic's "original" stolen material. Be that as it may, they are doomed for failure. Why? Because a cult without a cult leader cannot exist for long. It's only running on fumes now.
quote:It is getting too much for the Way Corps on the field to teach foundational classes live. They are taping a new class. The syllabus is being redone. They haven't announced any of the content. I am just guessing, but I think it will be closer to PFAL than WAP.
FINALLY.........sounds like the bod is distancing themselves from mr. martindale.
If this is the quality of indepth spiritual perception and awareness coming from twi's hq, who needs it or wants it???
Since throwing the guy out on his ear.......FOUR MORE YEARS of misguided bravado.
Why all the fuss of refilming everything? With the computers of the day, they could simply take the old foundational class, and cut and paste the face of various "personalities" over the face of the teacher. Even Roseybark could participate. Just don't use her face for the "ambassador" presentation. No one would go to church with her..
If they ran audio-only classes like they used to, it would be even easier. Instead of the customary flip charts, a picture of who was supposed to be teaching the class (rosie, harve, etc) could be displayed.
All of this could be done with a pittance compared to refilming. They could simply rename it "The way of a bun dance and spewer", and get to charge everybody once again for such great "new light".
At the "question and answer" period (right..) when the new students ask, "why do all of the teachers sound the same"? They would have a standard corporate answer, "well, aren't we all supposed to speak the same thing?"
Good point Steve. I think they should leave it blank though. Then they can fill in the blank as the present spewth dictates. Oh, sorry! They thought of that already!
quote: Although, it may be a wise move on their part to ease away from martinfail's wildass doctrines and revert back to Vic's "original" stolen material. Be that as it may, they are doomed for failure. Why? Because a cult without a cult leader cannot exist for long. It's only running on fumes now.
LOL, Knuckles - and too true!
outandabout - OF COURSE IT'S THEIR BUSINESS! They have to keep the household clean and if people aren't "doing what they say and saying what they do" then they are hypocrites and are not welcome into the spiritually elite rooms of Zion. Besides that, most of the wayfers left are too scared/wimpy/apathetic to do anything about it.
Steve! - ROFL - :D--> At least we know the lesbian encounter will NOT be the original sin! ;)--> I think you're right though, it's might be debt, but couldn't it also be refusal to witness? I mean here's satan asking Eve all these questions and instead of telling him all about God and her household she lets him control the conversation. That's not very godly!
I don't remember how much it was. It was either 175 for the class and 125 for the meal packet or the other way around. I can't remember. We didn't get the meal packet, just the class.
Rozilla and co are probably still sniggering over the "Eve is a lesbian" thing, and saying, "Okay, what crap can we get these twits to believe next? HAHAHAHAHAAAA!"
They won't house people on campus. They'll expect you to stay in the local hotels like they do for the Advanced Classes. This way they can blackmail the community to support them because they're bringing so much revenue to the area.
These extra few years in Dallas have given the bod some breathing room from the Martindale fiasco.
Now.....bring em back to hq. Show em the kinder, gentler twi (???).
And........MAYBE all of this is in preparation of "the big announcement".......(drum roll, please)......Rosalie is stepping down as twi's 3rd president. After all, she's served "admirably" (1996 - 2006) on the board for ten years and deserves high respect and high status during her emeritus years!!!
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I am astounded your color co-ORDInation~~~
Green stand for life
& also when one slaps mouth to avoid a nasty spill
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Makes sense.
After all, it re-connects the followers with their "beloved headquarters" AND it gives the staffers something to do.
Nothing like a couple of in-house conferences to grease up the machinery again.
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must not have met their quote with the hotel. So much for the free rooms for the Board. I wonder if they went in debt to run the meeting?
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You can't go if you're in debt????
That is STILL going on???
And why in the heck is that ANYONE'S business????
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Good Lord, will they never learn. I bet the conversations at the class had to be about what they had just learned too, over and over and over and over again until it's barf time.
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A good marketing ploy. Time to repackage and update their indoctrination film. Throw a little 21st century razzle dazzle to the old format, and presto, we have a modern version of what used to work. The only problem is that they don't have Mr Wierwille to teach it anymore. Perhaps that's another reason why they will have multiple teachers, there's no one left with enough personal charisma to hold anyone's attention. They have to alter the teachers to avoid killing the student with boredom. Although, it may be a wise move on their part to ease away from martinfail's wildass doctrines and revert back to Vic's "original" stolen material. Be that as it may, they are doomed for failure. Why? Because a cult without a cult leader cannot exist for long. It's only running on fumes now.
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FINALLY.........sounds like the bod is distancing themselves from mr. martindale.
If this is the quality of indepth spiritual perception and awareness coming from twi's hq, who needs it or wants it???
Since throwing the guy out on his ear.......FOUR MORE YEARS of misguided bravado.
Sheeeeeeesh.
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Wishing,
Thanks for sharing this kind of info. These are the details I love hearing about. Can you share how much the class cost?
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Why all the fuss of refilming everything? With the computers of the day, they could simply take the old foundational class, and cut and paste the face of various "personalities" over the face of the teacher. Even Roseybark could participate. Just don't use her face for the "ambassador" presentation. No one would go to church with her..
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If they ran audio-only classes like they used to, it would be even easier. Instead of the customary flip charts, a picture of who was supposed to be teaching the class (rosie, harve, etc) could be displayed.
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All of this could be done with a pittance compared to refilming. They could simply rename it "The way of a bun dance and spewer", and get to charge everybody once again for such great "new light".
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At the "question and answer" period (right..) when the new students ask, "why do all of the teachers sound the same"? They would have a standard corporate answer, "well, aren't we all supposed to speak the same thing?"
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I wonder what the new "Original Sin" will be?
Not getting the carpet clean enough?
Debt? Yeah that's gotta be it - debt! That's the "new light"! Debt was the original sin!
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Good point Steve. I think they should leave it blank though. Then they can fill in the blank as the present spewth dictates. Oh, sorry! They thought of that already!
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LOL, Knuckles - and too true!
outandabout - OF COURSE IT'S THEIR BUSINESS! They have to keep the household clean and if people aren't "doing what they say and saying what they do" then they are hypocrites and are not welcome into the spiritually elite rooms of Zion. Besides that, most of the wayfers left are too scared/wimpy/apathetic to do anything about it.
Steve! - ROFL -
:D--> At least we know the lesbian encounter will NOT be the original sin! 
;)--> I think you're right though, it's might be debt, but couldn't it also be refusal to witness? I mean here's satan asking Eve all these questions and instead of telling him all about God and her household she lets him control the conversation. That's not very godly!
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I don't remember how much it was. It was either 175 for the class and 125 for the meal packet or the other way around. I can't remember. We didn't get the meal packet, just the class.
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Rozilla and co are probably still sniggering over the "Eve is a lesbian" thing, and saying, "Okay, what crap can we get these twits to believe next? HAHAHAHAHAAAA!"
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Yep. I can almost see them stirring the cauldron as we speak..
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Of course it requires little imagination to picture Rosie stirring one..
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Round about the cauldron go;
Round about the cauldron go;
In the poison'd entrails throw.
Toad, that under cold stone
Days and nights has thirty-one
Swelter'd venom sleeping got,
Boil thou first i' the charmed pot.
Double, double toil and trouble;
Fire burn, and cauldron bubble.
Sorry, this should have gone in the Christmas at The Veq thread.
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That's been their policy for at least 10 years, Bob, why should
they change now?
They recycle the same material, slap on a new label, and all the
lemmings must pay for it.
Mr Hammeroni,
of COURSE the price for the event will stay the same even if the
overhead drops because they're holding it at hq.
In fact, since most people will need to spend MORE money to get
there, the amount of money they will spend will be more.
Finally, they will charge as much for the dormrooms as the hotel
did for full hotel rooms with full access to all hotel amenities,
like Room Service and access to the restaurant and snack machines
and so on.
And anyone complaining they're getting hosed gets added to the list.
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Plus, it will help instill a sense of mindless zeal in the
peons who are supporting them,
to show them the statues, spiffy auditorium, and other amenities
enjoyed by those who live on-grounds with negligible work.
The idea that this is something that actually is USELESS to 95%
or more of the congregation in exchange for their 15% means
poor oversight of money will never occur to them.
Of course, if it DOES, their name gets added to the list.
(BTW, I wasnt counting the indentured servants they still have on
grounds who do all the manual labor. They hardly "enjoy" any of
the amenities, since they have enough "spare time" to sleep or
enjoy the scenery, not both.)
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They won't house people on campus. They'll expect you to stay in the local hotels like they do for the Advanced Classes. This way they can blackmail the community to support them because they're bringing so much revenue to the area.
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MARK YOUR 2006 CALENDARS.
:D-->
These extra few years in Dallas have given the bod some breathing room from the Martindale fiasco.
Now.....bring em back to hq. Show em the kinder, gentler twi (???).
And........MAYBE all of this is in preparation of "the big announcement".......(drum roll, please)......Rosalie is stepping down as twi's 3rd president. After all, she's served "admirably" (1996 - 2006) on the board for ten years and deserves high respect and high status during her emeritus years!!!
Could be??
;)-->
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