I'm pretty sure the poem is older than 1980 and that that Terrell on death row didn't write it. That's what it looks like that site is saying....am I reading it wrong?
There was a little book published in the late 70's to early 80's that was a collection of VPW's favorite poems. I am not at all sure I can find it, but will look around sometime this week. That poem was on the last page, and I always thought he wrote it himself.
I still got the same book in front of me. It sure does say he wrote it. Maybe VP was reincarnated as Terrell Yarbrough. After all, Terrell is in Ohio. He even uses the last line of "But God is still alive." The only difference is TY uses "!" after alive; whereas, VPW uses "." -->
I've been scouring the web and the only references I can find to this poem are not attributed to anyone or they are attributed to Terrell Yarbrough aka Michael Poole, a death row inmate in OH.
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At 5 a.m. on Memorial Day 1999, Aaron Land and Brian Muha, two students at Franciscan University in Steubenville, Ohio, were pistol-whipped awake by intruders and abducted from the house they shared with a third roommate, Andrew Doran. Startled out of a sound sleep by noises he couldn't identify and a confused feeling that something was wrong, Doran managed to slip away and call the police. When they arrived, Land and Muha were gone.
I just seriously doubt that vee pee would write anything like that and that album of verse is mostly full of "anonymous" poems or poems written by others, if my memory is correct. It just doesn't seem right....
It's hard to run a Google or Dogpile on this because it's written in 3rd grade level language. It worse than anything you'd find on any sappy Hallmark card - so sicky sweet my teeth are rotting as I read it.
It's so elementary - why couldn't VPW have written this? I mean, he had a PhD, right? After 8 years or whatever of school he should be able to produce a 5 stanza poem - even if each stanza is 6 words and has just two lines.
Belle: This is the best I could come up with. Couldn't find out much about this "poet," but his style is strikingly similar to Wierwille's, wouldn't you say?
My thoughts about this dusted off from the 70's/80's:
Our job is to love one another, not keep tally of our fan club.
There are lots of people left to love you (I know I am one).
I thought then and still do: It's a self-centered poem that not only does not include the Lord in any equation, but promotes a mind-set that keeps Him out of the picture.
Of course no once would listen to me back then.
Thanks, again, Pawtucket, for giving us a forum to air pent-up thoughts.
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Belle
I'm pretty sure the poem is older than 1980 and that that Terrell on death row didn't write it. That's what it looks like that site is saying....am I reading it wrong?
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Ham
I heard vic quote it in the seventies. Maybe this guy is an ex wayfer or something.. who knows.
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oldiesman
I'm sure you're right Belle.
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Belle
Right that he didn't write it or right that I'm reading it wrong? :)-->
I'm sure vee pee didn't author it, but can't find who did.
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oldiesman
Right that VP and Terrell didn't author it.
I'd be willing to bet a few bucks that the author is anonymous.
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Watered Garden
Belle,
There was a little book published in the late 70's to early 80's that was a collection of VPW's favorite poems. I am not at all sure I can find it, but will look around sometime this week. That poem was on the last page, and I always thought he wrote it himself.
I'll try to find it tonight.
WG
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mzimagine
I think Dr. Wierwille either wrote it or adapted it.
That is my private interpretation.
But I think I am right.
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bliss
Got the book right in front of me!!
It's from Album of Verse
Author of If a Million People Love You
-Victor Paul Wierwille
could it be another plagery?
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bliss
The last verse says
"But God is still alive."
Could that be the "extra" that gave him authorship?
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bliss
Date on the whole book 1984. Eludes to being written most recently in that chapter.
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moony3424
I still got the same book in front of me. It sure does say he wrote it. Maybe VP was reincarnated as Terrell Yarbrough. After all, Terrell is in Ohio. He even uses the last line of "But God is still alive." The only difference is TY uses "!" after alive; whereas, VPW uses "." -->
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coolchef1248 @adelphia.net
i don't think veepee wrote anything and surly not that
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Belle
I've been scouring the web and the only references I can find to this poem are not attributed to anyone or they are attributed to Terrell Yarbrough aka Michael Poole, a death row inmate in OH.
I just seriously doubt that vee pee would write anything like that and that album of verse is mostly full of "anonymous" poems or poems written by others, if my memory is correct. It just doesn't seem right....
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ChasUFarley
It's hard to run a Google or Dogpile on this because it's written in 3rd grade level language. It worse than anything you'd find on any sappy Hallmark card - so sicky sweet my teeth are rotting as I read it.
It's so elementary - why couldn't VPW have written this? I mean, he had a PhD, right? After 8 years or whatever of school he should be able to produce a 5 stanza poem - even if each stanza is 6 words and has just two lines.
C'mon - give him some credit, will ya?
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Nottawayfer
ROFLMAO!!!!
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Radar OReilly
There is a corps grad....I think she was 6th corps named Jane Muha........does anyone think there may be a connection?
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WordWolf
With the exception of the last line, this is
an old poem. I did a search on it once before,
let's see what I find now....
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laleo
Belle: This is the best I could come up with. Couldn't find out much about this "poet," but his style is strikingly similar to Wierwille's, wouldn't you say?
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WordWolf
Hm.
I don't see it now, but I'd traced it to earlier
in the century, and a possible name, but I don't see it now.
That the poem existed before the convict was born, I think, is
beyond question. I have found it nicely ironic that someone who
plagiarized a poem sits in prison-the ethics are paired up with
the results, that's consistent. Plagiarists belong in jail. :)-->
Lots of people who've never heard of twi have heard of this poem,
but I'm not sure when that last line was ADDED.
I know it was ADDED because I've SEEN it without that line,
and I've seen it with a different last line ALSO added.
Given that vpw's track record, I don't even think it's viable to
consider him the author. Further, he always kept "his" work close
to his vest. The poem has had various iterations thru the decades.
He would NEVER have let it get away from him. More likely he caught
one version and either added the last line, or caught it WITH that
last line. If we knew where the convict got it, this would help us
track it.
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Belle
Plagarizing the plagarizer....funny irony. That he's in jail is rather apropo, no? ;)-->
Laleo, WILD! Thank you!! This site credits him with it back in 1973
Guadalupe de Saavedra
I guess I can't exactly prove he didn't write it, but it also can't be proven that he DID write it. :)-->
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Oakspear
Wierwille couldn't even read a poem and get the meter right, and we were supposed to believe he wrote one? :P-->
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Belle
Dunno, Radar. I found his mother's name is Rachel and he had a little brother named Chris. Both have said that they forgive Terrell for killing Brian.
http://www.journeyofhope.org/old_site/a_mother.htm
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Kit Sober
My thoughts about this dusted off from the 70's/80's:
Our job is to love one another, not keep tally of our fan club.
There are lots of people left to love you (I know I am one).
I thought then and still do: It's a self-centered poem that not only does not include the Lord in any equation, but promotes a mind-set that keeps Him out of the picture.
Of course no once would listen to me back then.
Thanks, again, Pawtucket, for giving us a forum to air pent-up thoughts.
Kit:)-->
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