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Oilfield medic - LOL This link below is a story about one of the caseworkers who works at the ACS agency in New York under whose care little Nixmary died. Now this is scary............read the whole article. http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/386759p-328137c.html ........the ACS has suspended him from his job of TRAINING PROSPECTIVE FOSTER PARENTS...........YIKES

Well Sudo, this is rather a blanket statement. With all due respect I raised my two daughters all by myself and the one just graduated from college and the other is in 10th grade and just aced all her final exams for the semester. Some of her grades were top of her classes. They have never been in trouble with the police, the oldest a virgin until 20 then came to me for birth control advice when she was ready to be with her boyfriend of two years, they don't do drugs (I know for sure), they aren't sleeping around, etc etc etc. The college graduate moved to Chicago and is making $20.00 an hour..........Everyone compliments me on what great kids they are, yet you seem to imply that my home was a second class home. This is the problem with black and white statements. I was commited to them. Just how did me being a single parent flaw them or give them any less advantage? Its the parent not the number of them at home.

How wonderful.........congrats to you both

Here you go........ Horror beyond horrors......... http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/382170p-324447c.html http://www.nydailynews.com/news/story/382185p-324494c.html

This is the song that never ends Yes it goes on and one my friends Some people started singing it not Knowing what it was... And you'll be busy singing it forever just because.... This is the song that never ends Yes it goes on and on my friends Some people started singing it not Knowing what it was.... And you'll be busy singing it forever just because....... For all you Barney fans.........

This thread has really been helpful for me. I thought I was the only one suffering through this kind of family "stuff". It doesn't have anything to do necessarily with the holidays, I can't seem to "integrate" back with my family no matter what I do or try or say. I am the youngest of 7 born in a ten year span. When I was around 10 or 11, all my older brothers and sisters were going off to the service (5 of them) and it was just me and my (one year older) brother at home. To make a long story short, my father passed away in March of 1993. My oldest sister "decided" that mom should go live with another brother of ours in Florida. She sold everything within days of his death and shuffled Mom out of her home. I ASKED TO TAKE HER. After five years, the brother in Florida's wife decided she didn't want Mom anymore, so they shipped her to another brother in Ohio. I ASKED TO TAKE HER. After five more years that brother's wife decided she didn't want her and they called me to take her for awhile so they could work on their marriage. At that point I decided with her not to send her back but just to have her come live with me permanently. She was now 10 years older and in less than perfect health. During this time she began to develop Alzheimers and could not be left alone. I could no longer work and only my husband (newly married I should add) was the one working and taking care of us financially) and when I asked for some financial help from the other 6 children, you thought I had asked them for a kidney or something. Very vicious attacks about how we were not spending our money properly and we should give up this or that and on and on. Most of this from my older sister (she seems to hate me). Anyways to sum it up, we had an email war between all of us and nothing changed. Mom passed away, they all came and for one moment we were all together as a family. Recently I received an email from one of my brothers saying how we are older now and should all just get along. That he had a good relationship with the others. He doesn't judge me he said because God forbid he hadn't done everything right in his life. I think I blew it when I emailed him back, but I told him in order for us to have a true brother/sister relationship he could not continue to believe the things my sister and other brothers continue to spew about me. None of them really knew who I was or had taken the time to get to know who I was and their preconceived judgement of me not being capable of making adult decisions really hurt me. Anyways, haven't heard back, which hurts my heart, but at the same token I stood up for myself and I really feel good about me for that. Anyways, it seems like I can't let go of the hurt over all this family stuff. It eats at me and I know I just have to let it go.....how do I do that?

It gets particularly ugly in the Politics and Tacks booth......perhaps your services will be needed there someday. Lots of food fights.....some choking.....welcome to GSC.

Wow what a story - I am feeling really disgusted with the BOOBS, er, I mean the BOT about right now....

Happy Happy Birthday - from all of us to you !!

Oenophile - you are one of a kind - Happiest of days to you!!

Belle, Your presence on GSC has added a little elegance to the place..... Happiest of birthdays to you!!! from the fog

Ex - your Halloween avatar- that is scary and FUNNY - cleaning coffee off monitor. LOL Question - if you follow oldies premise that it was right for the Loymeister to demand unquestioning obedience - why was it necessary for Craiggers to trash and shred the reputations of those who wouldn't give their loyalty. I would have had much more respect for the Craiggers if he had just accepted the fact that so and so chose not to pen the loyalty oath and then he (Craiggers) moved on with his "desire" to move the Word over the World. Instead he chose to crucify them morally, spiritually, reputation wise etc. And he did it many nights from the pulpit in the WOW auditorium. I was there, I heard many times - Why was that necessary, Oldies? Honest question here. If it wasn't all about Craig - I don't see the need to do this.

A pandemic for sure

you are pretty cool...cool...... have a good one....... :D

Roy I am so sorry to hear about your mom. I just lost my mom a year and a half ago, I know what you are going through. Peace.

rascal - well that is very nice of you to say - thank you for your support. it means alot to me as I have not only the issues of raising a teen, but it is compounded by her being considered "different" by some. She worked in a restaurant for a while as a busser and hostess and one of the kids that goes to her school was in there with her mom. They kept calling her over to the table to get things for them. First they would call her over by saying "hey girl" we need some water, then it would be "hey guy" we need some extra napkins. Then when she would walk away from the table the mother and daughter would start laughing real loud. They basically continued to harass her this way during their time there. By the time they left she was in the back break room crying. Thank God for many wonderful co-workers and customers who were there to support her. The manager heard about it after the fact and I know would have handled it had he been there. I know because the general manager is her Uncle. But this just shows you the ignorance of the adults sometime, an adult mother that would participate in the harrassment of another teenage child. To me that is evil, not my child. We have had many discussions regarding the discrimination she is bound to face in her lifetime. She knows she has to accept the bad with the good. Generally she can handle the kids possibly taunting her, but for the mother to be a part of such a hurtful experience, personally I am dumbfounded.

One of the most pre-emptive ways to protect your child, the authorities say....is for the parent to be out there with them. I think any extra precautions by the community are welcome to protect the children along with parental responsibility.

sweet excie - your words are so kind - I love ya (er, you know not like a lesbian or anything - so don't get any ideas) :P

fog from ohio sends her happy greetings......happy birthday to YOU!!

Wayfer Not - Happy Happy day........ :D

More and more I am beginning to feel the discrimination my daughter must feel. There is a girl at high school who is crazy about my daughter. A couple weeks ago, the girl started calling our house. She lives a few blocks away and invited my daughter over. My daughter went over a couple of nights. The girl had told her mother that my daughter was gay. From then on the mother and daughter began to fight. Mother told her daughter that she couldn't hang out with my daughter anymore because it might damage her reputation. My child came home and told me all about this. The girl continued to call our house and say that my daughter could come over while her parents were not home, but I absolutely was against that. Whether I agreed or not with the other mother's view point, I was not going to let my child put herself into a bad situation where the mother could come home (and being in total denial) would somehow find a reasonable way to justify blaming this on my child. You who are parents can understand this. To make a long story short, my daughter doesn't like that girl in that way (which kinda shoots the theory, that all gay people want is sex, right to hell). The girl continues to pursue her. And this is not an ugly fat gal, she's quite pretty. Very feminine. Today at school the girl wrote a note which some of her friends interpreted as her going to commit suicide because of my daughter. They went to the counselor at school and the next thing you know, my daughter was being pulled out of class. This girl was crying in the counselors office over my daughter not liking her. My daughter had to sit there and feel like she had to justify why she didn't like her and began to feel like this was all her fault. She came home and told me all about it. Of course (unbeknownst) to her I called the counselor and let her know, that hey this girl was pursuing my child and that if the mother of the other girl should find out, she will somehow justify it being my daughter's fault. This is how bigoted people think. The moral of the story........the counselor told me that she thought it was great that my daughter came home and talked to me about all this. I told her that my child could talk to me about anything, because it isn't all about me, it is about her. I just wanted to let the counselor know, hey this girl is pursuing my child and somehow the mother would find a way to blame this on my child. I feel sorry for the young girl, thinking that she must not have anyone to talk to about her feelings and the confusion she must be feeling now. I am thinking the whole thing with the counselor was for attention, the attention she lacks at home, because her mother feels the need to pretend that her daughter does not have some gender confusion. I get the feeling that the whole atmosphere at this other girl's house is, THIS IS THE WAY IT IS, anything else won't be tolerated. My heart goes out to this child. How lonely she must feel right now. Allan, please don't respond with your self righteous bull crap. Not responding at all would be preferable. I guess if you feel you must, at least know that I am not going to let you goad me into your "what kind of mother must I be". I would much rather love my child with unconditional love, than be the kind of parent that my child doesn't feel she could talk to. Throw your fiery darts if you must.

Best wishes to you on this day Ham...........don't drink too much beer, er I mean eat too much birthday cake......

Roy, It sounds like you are referring to "end times" philosophy. I was watching a show on this very subject a few months back on the history channel. It seems that every generation (when bad things were happening) felt that the end times were near. Enormous numbers of people lost their lives to illness, earth quakes etc etc. Scientists talked about how the weather and earthquakes and natural disasters could all be part of the cycle of the earth. It made alot of sense. I don't know if they were totally accuracte, but again it made a lot of sense. I agree, we should focus on the positive things we have in our life, because even if it is the end times (which no man knows) there isn't a whole lot our fretting can do abut it. Peace.

A friend of mine just showed me his paper from the state of Ohio showing he can perform marriage ceremonies. He also went to the "universal life church" website and got a paper sayin' he could preach. That's all it takes.

what she said ;)