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Is it---------- Sundays Will Never Be The Same-------Spanky and Our Gang?

Ever wonder why "phonetics" is spelled with a "ph"? Hey!----- I'm just sayin'------------------

All You Zombies-----The Hooters(Cindy Lauper's back-up band) Tom WW posted these lyrics around Halloween so I don't feel right taking it. How about another one hit wonder?

Hi Larry Yeah, we Clevelanders got to see quite a few who went on to bigger things. Joe stepped into The James Gang to fill the guitar spot when Glenn Schwartz departed to join Pacific Gas and Electric. (Are You Ready?) And then there was Grand Funk, Bob Seger,(Detroit) Eric Carmen, Sonny Geraci, Glass Harp and, of course, The OJ's. If you are in that area, you might be interested to know that Glenn plays around town with his brother Gene(bass player for many years for Robert Lockwood) and they bill themselves as The Schwartz Brothers. Run For The Roses: Well, You probably know it's about the Kentucky Derby. I guess there's some kind of parallel to be drawn about working toward a goal. Last I heard, Dan Fogelberg(writer of said song) was fighting a battle against advanced prostate cancer.

Very good point, Thomas Maybe it should have been called, "Forcing our doctrines on the rest of the World" But then, of course the bumper stickers would have had to say, "FODOTROTW". (Not nearly as catchy as "WOW".)

Fundamentals of Greek Research-----Walter J. Cummins(25-30 pages) (Very basic, more like an overview than a lesson.) So You Want To Read Faster-----------Donald E. Wierwille(2 or 3 pages) Understanding What You Read---------Donald E. Wierwille(2 or 3 pages) (Probably the first 10 minutes of a high school English class lecture.) There was also a booklet called: Christian Etiquette------Dorothy Owens (Which we used in Fellow Laborers of Ohio) I always thought this one was pretty good when not viewed as some kind of "Law". If I remember correctly, it was one of the few of such booklets that seemed academically honest in that she made a full disclosure of her sources and didn't pretend these were her ideas or that they came by revelation. A couple more that I remember are: I Can Do All Things-----Peter J. Wade The Secret Of Radiant Living--Peter J. Wade The Spoken Word------Walter J. Cummins I'll keep looking. If I find them I will send you a PM.

Perhaps the VP apologists who are in denial that they were hoodwinked (like the rest of us) are the ones who really need to----------- Get over it! He was a con artist, fellas, a flim-flam man. He was no modern day David or Paul. His so-called "ministry" was a self serving business designed to satisfy his own personal lusts. He did so at your expense, in case you hadn't noticed. Wallow in your self delusion if that's your choice. Personally, I think you VP idolaters are the ones who really need to ----------- Get over it!

This thread sure has gone a long way from discussing sales tactics for PFAL to comparing VPW with actual men of God. Seeing how twisted some of the graduates turned out, makes me regretful I ever signed up ANYBODY! Maybe these VPW worshipers could put their heads together and start a "Why I worship VPW" thread.

Mustard just doesn't get that big here in the Midwest. Maybe it did in Bible times. Maybe it didn't. Who knows? What bothers me, is that Pillai said he had seen this plant, alive and thriving, in the twentieth century. How come nobody else did? Anyway, it's a parable. It's not meant to be accepted as literal fact anyhow. That's how parables work. Maybe the very fact that mustard doesn't grow that big is an integral element of the parable. Dunno.

Ed Cassidy----------- Yeah---------That's the Spirit!!!

Hi Mike Not sure I understand the spiritual "significance" of that cartoon on post #86. Perhaps you could expound on the finer points of the illustrations. Or maybe just give a "synopsis" of sorts. (I already "get" the text portions.) ps. Have you named that pony yet?

Off topic (kinda) Jorma has a place "down the road" from here called Fur Peace Ranch. He brings in big name performers and runs guitar workshops along with his old Hot Tuna buddy, Jack Cassady. But alas, the last time I checked, they had no workshops planned to study the finer points of bongo drums. Sigh!

Yup I think I might have them somewhere. Not sure. There was another one about understanding Greek, as well. I'm not sure I would label them collaterals. Maybe peripherals would be more accurate. OK, I know that's a silly little point. I just meant that they are not related to the PFAL class, specifically, like the other materials that are considered collaterals. I'll try to see if I still have them but it's been a long time and several moves since I saw them.

Hey folks Nobody murdered VPW so that there proves conclusively that he was one "A-OK" kind of guy. Yup. Shore does. Johnnyheis said so. And I can clearly see how it is relevant to a discussion of sales ploys used to pitch PfAl. Hey, Johnny----Did you know he had body guards? Did you know he sent "goons" out to have "friendly" conversations with people out in the field who were bad-mouthing "The Ministry"? Yeah, I see it now. Nobody murdered him so that proves he didn't do anything wrong. I gotta tell ya, Johnsonur, that's some pretty twisted logic. Do you ever consider murder as an answer to dealing with someone who has wronged you? You can tell me Johnny, It's just between us pals.

Don't let yourself feel old. About 250 people heard him teach this stuff at AC '73 also.

HA! Now I see it! When Wierwille was quoting God-Breathed scripture, his words were God-Breathed. (And Vice Versa) Nikita Krushev memorized the Gospels word-for-word. Therefore, when he recited them, his words were God-Breathed. It's all clear to me now. We must all begin immediately to master The Communist Manifesto. It's God-Breathed because Krushev could recite it as well.

Sheesh The guy made all kinds of references relating to this subject and THOUSANDS of people heard him do so. How hard is that to comprehend? Along these same lines, there were teachings going around in the mid-'70s that the spiritual reason North America was allowed to be taken from the natives is because they were worshipping false Gods and that God knew in his foreknowledge that The Way would flourish in what is now America. Sick----Sick-----Sick-----and---- Sicker!

Groucho Pm me if you need any help. Uhmmmm-------Testing the Sangria, that is.

It's a shame Flip Wilson died so young. He could have taken "The Right Reverend Leroy" and "The Church of What's Happenin' Now" to a whole new level.

God told Abraham "Kill me a son." Abe said "Man, you must be puttin' me on." God said "No." Abe said "What??" God said "Well, you can do what you wanna but next time you see me comin', you better run." Abe said "where do you want this killin' done?" God said "Out on Highway 61" Highway 61 Revisited-----------Bob Dylan ------------------------------------------------------- Does it surprise me that Bob Dylan is a prophet just like Joni Mitchell? Nope--- Not at all. What surprises me is finding out that Abraham lived in Mississippi. (In the Delta, no less.) Man! These rock songs are just filled with God-breathed word. Weren't any of us paying attention? Maybe we've just forgotten.

Lord have mercy! Now we've got Joni Mitchell speaking the wondrous works of God. It was a rock song, for cryin' out loud! Joni Mitchell wrote it about her experience , meeting a priest, on her way to Woodstock. ------------------------------------------ Woodstock Joni Mitchell I came upon a child of God As I was walking along the road I asked him,"Where are you going?" And this he told me. He said, "I'm going down to Yazgur's farm I'm going to join in a rock and roll band I'm going to camp out on the land And try to set my soul free We are star dust We are golden We are billion year old carbon And we've got to get ourselves back to the garden. "Then can I walk beside you? I have come here to lose the smog And I feel as I'm a cog in something turning." Maybe it's the time of year Or maybe it's the time of man. I don't know who I am But life is for learning We are stardust Billion year old carbon We're caught in the devil's bargain And we got to get ourselves back to the garden. ------------------------------------------------------------ Geeze Louise! How the heck is that some kind of "secret" message from God? What's next? Were AC/DC really modern day Prophets? Some might say the "Big Balls" song was about the Moon and the Sun. Pretty heavy stuff!!! Dontcha think??

I just now got it. I must be still runnin' slow 'cause of the time change thing.

Welcome, Friendofinnie I wish there was an easy answer but there isn't. Part of the answer lies in the fact that they taught us to believe that "rational" thinking is really "irrational". :blink: The number one "rule"(so to speak) is/was to never even entertain the possibility that someone with an opposing view might have a valid point. In fact, a focal point of one of the sessions of the P@wer For Abnndant Living class dealt with the five steps that the serpent supposedly used to deceive Eve and bring about the fall of Mankind. Step number one was that she listened to and considered what he said. See how that works? If you start to consider the viewpoints of others, you are destined for catastrophe just as certainly as Eve was. (cough, hack, wheeze) We're usually a pretty friendly bunch.(for the most part) Hope you enjoy your visit.

Hi TG You don't seem at all harsh to me. I don't personally get too hung up about doctrinal differences any more. Before I got involved with TWI, it was my belief that God could convey a message to you through a sunset or the sound of a songbird or the aroma of ocean spray. Not a word-for-word kind of message, of course, just a kind of awareness or even an emotional sensation. Then, when I got involved with The Way, I found out you're supposed to put Him in a box where you can talk to Him by SIT and He answers if you meet all the right conditions.(cough) You don't need SIT to talk to God and He doesn't need it to talk to you. That doesn't mean SIT is not real or that you shouldn't do it. It just isn't the end-all answer to communicating with God that TWI taught us it was. When you witness a baby being born, the sights, the sounds, the smells all combine to send some sort of wordless message to an innermost region of your being. That's the kind of thing I'm talking about, not "Oh Shanta's".

Hi Mike Just curious. How can you be riding my pony if you think my story was phony? ps. The story is true. It's the pony that is fake. But, of course, you probably figured that out when you tried to saddle up.