waysider

Can you illustrate how the "law of believing" was a causative factor?

Actually, Larry, I'm not so sure The Bible says "people" will go to hell. It does talk about a special place being reserved for certain spirits, but not people. I could be wrong. I haven't looked at that matter for quite some time.

Are those the only options? Do you think it is possible to say, ----------- " I did not receive, (not because God and His Word are a lie or because of my unbelief or the unbelief of others), but, rather, because the so called "Law" of believing is unfounded and has no merit as an absolute law."? You see, that way you are not blaming God or his Word or yourself or those whose "unbelief" foiled your results, you are putting the blame where it belongs. You are putting it on the reality that this so-called "law" is a sham.

Maybe it was supposed to help you "polish" your delivery? :unsure:

Johniam I'm not trying to pick on you, but do you not see the obvious contradictions in your own post? First you quote I Cor. 14:27 where it clearly states,"let one interpret." Then you excuse the fact that interpretation was not given by suggesting that the words of Dr. Wierwille were somehow on a parallel with the words of the apostle Paul. Next, you ignore the fact that it states,"at the most by three." Sorry, I fail to see how that is giving any scriptural credibility to excellor sessions. Whether or not you do it in an orderly fashion is not the issue here. There is still no scriptural support to "practice"your fluency.

Your Mind Is On Vacation-----Mose Allison

OMG!, Groucho! I actually remember sitting in on a session on how to run "Public Ex." meetings that encouraged us to use that exact line!!

Yeah, I guess you guys are right. "Olde English" is a malt liquor that is sold in 40 ounce bottles. Errrr----That's what the guys at work told me. "Say, Kids!!!!---------- Let's have an old fashioned "Biblical Research" party!!!" First one to find a scripture reference or scriptural support for "Excellor Sessions" gets a kewpie doll and a year's supply of "green cards".

Yeah, yeah, Sure, sure Uh huh We were a cult and all that---- but---but--but--- HEY!!! As cults go, we were the BEST! cult!!!! ( That's why we kept tellin' each other, "You're the BEST!.")

Yeah!! Who needs namby-pamby words like "will" when we can get big power packed words like SHALL. Philippians 4:19 " My God shall supply all your need according to your believing." OOPs! That last part was supposed to be "according to His riches in glory by Christ Jesus."

Ting tang walla walla bing bang---- Saaaaay! isn't that the one about the "Witch Dr."?!!!

Angels not only speak English, they speak "Olde English"! For yea verily I say unto you, "dost thou not knowest this?"

Is the word "commit" the same as the word " serve"? I'm just askin'--------------

"I Will Survive"---Gloria Gaynor?

And yet another of those statements that sounds really noble but has no basis in scripture or reality.

Remember in session 12 when Dr. W. talked about a guy who had a tongue that was merely grunts and groans and guttural sounds? He used this to persuade us that it did not matter what your tongue sounded like because it came from God. This was intended(imo) to relax class members who were self conscious of their "tongue" and encourage them to "manifest" no matter what it sounded like. So here's my question: If it didn't matter that this guy's "tongue" sounded wacky, how come we had to have practice sessions to make ours sound eloquent? <_< I'm just sayin'---------- " ---tongue words have vowels, consonants, and syllables."------johniam ( Not necessarily true according to VPW in session 12.)

" Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health." Would you agree, that is a statement of " availability"? Would you agree that it is not only available but high on God's priority list? I really don't think you can use the "it wasn't available" ticket to get out of jail on this one. People endured financial hardships and physical suffering(some even died) because their "believing" was supposed to be the magic bullet that delivered what The Word clearly states is "available". "Nope, not God's fault, you just weren't 'believing'." ERGO------"It's your own fault."

Mike, I have seen this exact same method used to teach theatrical students how to be fluent in improvisation. They "invent" a language and then do a variety of exercises that includes the ones you described. Dr. W. said that SIT could not be faked and yet there is evidence that he, as well as many others, did exactly that. Any other former thespians here ever do this exercise? When I inquired about what I had seen in the theatre, I was told that what I saw was a counterfeit propounded by devil spirits because there was no "interpretation" given and it did not follow the prescibed format for a " believer's meeting". Seems like that is the same thing done in an "Excellor Session". Did "Excellor Sessions" follow the rules set forth in the TIP class?(Intermediate) or were they exempt?

I might have been born yesterday but I stayed up all last night studying.

Is it ok to wear that for a "poker run"?

Aw, now, WG Quit holdin' back and say what's really on your heart. Everything will seem much better in the morning when we "run with the cows". Oh, cr@p!---I forgot to soak the oak grotes and wheat berries! Gotta go. Goodnight Ma, Goodnight Pa, Goodnight Short Stuff, Goodnight John Boy. Lights Out!!

Ya 'spose that has anything to do with the old catch phrase"Sock it to me, baby!"?

Hey, now! I wasn't about to shave my legs and wear a skirt for anybody!(Not even Jesus)