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Last night in the chat room I had a discussion with "Chuck" over his belief in "biblical universalism" which says that everyone will be saved at the end and there is no hell. Has anyone heard of this and what do you think.

Just found out that Jerry Orbach died from prostate cancer. At 69. He was my favorite detective on Law and Order. I will miss him.

Vickles has cast aspersions on the bible because "it has been translated into so many languages" That's not scholarly work vicks, the Old Testament is extremely accurate, having been meticuously copied over the years. We have more examples of it and the New Testament than we do of Homer, Plato or Socrates. As a Christian I accept the Bible's definition of sin. Homosexuality is right up there with the biggies like lust and gossip and drunkenness. But I live in a sinful secular world that does not accept the Bible as God's word. So initially I am more interested in getting people into the kingdom and then letting God show people where they need to change. But don't blame mistranslations for the Bible's stance on the subject. And by the way God considers male and female homosexuality as an abomination and calls the practitioners to come to him and let him change them.

There was a song "You are Special" well if everyone is special then no one is. And the good/best thing had more to do with rationalizing sin. According to twi our choice was good/best not good/bad, so if we chose something that felt good, we could shrug it off as not the best, but good.

The Bible also says Adam was with Eve when this happened. So Adam stood there while Eve and the serpent talked and never said a word. He just ate the fruit along with Eve and then blamed her when God came looking for them.

Here some info on the rules Residency requirements In actions for divorce in the State of Ohio, the filing party must have resided in the State of Ohio for at least six months immediately prior to the filing of the complaint. In addition, the filing party must have resided in the county in which the complaint is filed for at least ninety days immediately prior to the filing of the complaint. In actions for dissolution of marriage, the filing party must have resided in the State of Ohio for at least six months immediately prior to the filing of the petition for dissolution. §3105.03,3105.62, CivR 3 Name of court and title of action/parties Actions for divorce and dissolution of marriage are filed in the Court of Common Pleas. The title of the action initiating an action for divorce is a Complaint, while the title of an action initiating an action for dissolution of marriage is a Petition. The title of the action granting the divorce is a Decree of Divorce, and the title of the action granting the dissolution of marriage is a Decree of Dissolution of Marriage. The filing party is known as the Petitioner if the action is for dissolution and the Plaintiff if the action is one for divorce. The other party in an action for dissolution is referred to as the Co-Petitioner, and if the action is for divorce, the Defendant. § 3105.011

Raf I can't give the specifics now, but I remember somebody getting the boot for using unattribyuted thoughts and comments used in a different writer's column.

Why do we still care?

But haven't journalists been fired just for lifting ideas?

Sounds alot like clinton.

Hey, I was just asking, OK?

For an interesting take on Judge Moore and what the constitution says check this link. http://www.renewamerica.us/archives/speech...07hillsdale.htm

Raf, you should apologize to Rich Mullins' estate now.

It's not so much what she does but who.

Do they celebrate the day vpw died? They would do well to remember the adage "Death is nature's way of saying 'slow down.'"

Cknapp I think Jesus was talking to Satan, because Jesus knew Satan was interfering with Peter.

Better question did vpw/twi plagiarize JCOur promised seed?

This is why "dispensationalism" makes sense. :)--> Not neccessarily, Lucifer was good until evil took over his heart and he became Satan. Ever wonder where Lucas came up with Annakin/Darth Vader?

Maybe Biblefan can weigh in on this one.

And we spend more time arguing about who Jesus isn't instead of what he did and what it means.

As for salvation, I believe we need to understand that God judges from the heart. Look at Rahab, an innkeeper or prostitute, she was a rank unbeliever who heard what God was doing, correctly assessed the situation and trusted in Him. She eventually became part of the Christ line.

Personally, from my own research, I believe Pentecost happened at the temple not in an upper room. Raf, I agree vpw got this one right, and others have hit it too. Ray Vanderlaan, Michigan-based scholar, has a book that talks about the south gate to the temple as the most likely spot.

How much validity is there in the Upper Room theory?

Plagiarism goes deeper than that. If you are trying to pawn off another's work as your own that's plagiarism regardless of what the work's purpose is. And there's no shame in quoting others works you just need to cite it that's all. If vpw had done it consistently none of us would be here.

Dave On behalf of all biblical lumbermen, architects and soil experts, I give you the apple butter raspberry. :D-->