WordWolf

No, there were quotes from lcm's wap class. There were quotes from lcm's wap class. I thought you just said it was "because I said so" and there were no direct quotes. Now you're admitting there were lcm quotes. In your opinion. It made a substantive case, if you weren't looking for those EXACT words, but found the identical CONCEPT sufficient. One person quoted directly from lcm's class. Another claims some people told him those quotes don't exist. Since the first person is quoting directly (and has the burden of proof, which they provided), and the second person lacks access to said evidence, and never looked into EXACTLY WHAT WAS CITED (session, page, etc.) which person should the logical reader believe made a stronger case? Style is not equivalent to evidence OR logic. Doesn't matter if lcm himself posts and admits to it, complete with RealVideo clips and RealAudio clips from it and pdfs of the pages from the books, you still will find an excuse to disbelieve it. Folks who've tried to reason with you should be able to confirm this. Congratulations! You proved that one page from the PFAL syllabus-which no one ever disputed- said that. Have an egg cream! Now, if you want to show what twi "ALWAYS taught", you'll need to post the image from the wap class. What? You don't HAVE it? Then this business about what twi "ALWAYS taught" is actually what PFAL said and nothing else, and your claim that it's what was "ALWAYS taught" is specious to say the least. (And a bald-faced lie to say the most.)

Go ahead and post it. If one or two dipsticks have difficulty with it, they can skip the thread.

Now I'm curious what your song sounds like. I couldn't find its lyrics online- just notes that people would LIKE its lyrics. And I think "MC Hammer" dropped the "MC" years ago. ============ New song. "There's a gun with ammunition Just inside the doorway. Use it only in emergency." All the militia posts lately reminded me of this line, I suppose.

(I chopped down this post following... Unless it was reprinted, it was LIFE Magazine. I tracked it down when I was in college.

By "real miracles", I take it you don't mean the "parking-space-in-front-of-the-supermarket, which was the standard later, correct?

"Battlefield promotion". That's how they announced it. It was discussed in a previous thread which I raised...

Somebody asked about Rivenbark....

That's exactly how I saw it. An apostle is a SENT ONE. vpw came out of NOWHERE with this "an apostle brings new light to his generation. It may be old light, but to the generation, it is new light." Absolutely NO verses were used to support this, you may recall. Each ministry was just DEFINED. vpw made up this convoluted definition so that it would apply to him as he was seen by others. He then left it unstated for others to connect-the-dots. (Of course, since everything he taught was CURRENT and available ELSEWHERE, he didn't even fit his OWN definition, except by propaganda.) He called himself "THE Teacher", defined "apostle" so it could be applied to him, and did the SAME to "evangelist". He said an evangelist is one who PRIMARILY get the other Christians fired up for witnessing, NOT that THEY do the witnessing. Funny how it allows HIM to get the title without going on the field. Among some people, he claimed to "pastor" them in private. (Ask Ex C how well that worked.) That leaves "prophet", or "one who speaks for God". Anyone think he didn't want himself seen as "one who speaks for God"?

Should be "Missionary Man". I think that's a Eurythmics song, but it MIGHT have been an Annie Lennox solo venture. Haven't heard that song in quite a while... I don't think they get a lot of airplay.

Daredevil Stan Lee X-Men Stan is like Waldo on all those Marvel movies. If you know to look for him, he's easy to spot. (In Daredevil, he's the guy that young Matt Murdock stops from crossing the street against the light, in X-2, he's on the beach when that guy slogs onshore, in X-Men he's a hot-dog vendor, in Spiderman, he's pushing a kid out of the way as the Goblin rains concrete on the crowd.)

Supergirl Helen Slater The Legend of Billie Jean Funny- nowadays I remember Vic Tayback as much for his one Star Trek episode ("A Piece of the Action") as I do for the entire series of "Alice", which I've seen a lot less recently. *checks his IMDB entry* Hey! Vic Tayback was in "Dead Heat on a Merry-Go-Round"! That was when Harrison Ford played a bellhop and was told why he'd never make it as an actor. (The "bag of groceries" incident.)

:) Star Trek: Generations William Shatner Airplane II: the Sequel

If we were doing tv episodes, I'd say this was the "Lifebomb" episode of "Tales from the Dark Side." (That was creepy.) Since we're doing movies, I'll guess "the Producers".

Please direct threads of a DOCTRINAL nature to the DOCTRINAL forum.

This was probably confusion over the demonaic hanging out by tombs. This is not the same thing as a disembodied SPIRIT hanging out there. Then again, when it came to "Advanced class level" stuff, vpw seemed to just recite material with no understanding of it, and wing it when he wanted to expand on it.

Ellen Barkin The Big Easy Dennis Quaid (Raf, thanks for explaining why the name "Slaghoople" has been floating thru my brain this morning. That's the Liz Taylor link you used.)

Clicking up to the top for easy reference.

Wow. An eyewitness account to the bot ADMITTING to the attempted murder of Ricardo Caballero. A man SAW them ADMIT to responsibility and complicity. Wow. A man who wasn't there calls him a liar. He claims there was "no proof other than hearsay from Geer", despite the PUBLIC ADMISSION OF GUILT OF THE ACCUSED. In a court of law, that's admissible as EVIDENCE and may convict the accused all by itself. (Selective reading skipped the PUBLIC ADMISSION OF GUILT OF THE ACCUSED. Then again, selective reading is the modus operandi of some people....) Then he suggested that-since it wasn't reported in the books of others who might not have been present- that it didn't happen. He also said it never came up in Waydale or the GSC. However, Pawtucked HIMSELF confirms this has been discussed, albeit not by the eyewitnesses. That means that the eyewitnesses TALKED TO OTHERS, who passed it along. So, that means there have been quite a few "peeps" over the years, as the result of the absence of a Conspiracy of Silence. So, then, given that this has come up before, and we have an eyewitness account, where then does this objection come from? Is it the Cylon BaseStar of denial? Or just plain doo-doo bulldookey? (Or-just maybe-both?)

I'm narrowing this thread because, apparently, so much happened this year. I'm looking for the events of and about 1976. Yes, that will include 1975 and 1977 to a degree. However, I'd like the ones ABOUT 1976, whether or not they were actually IN 1976. So, please share all memories, no matter how fuzzy or "trivial". To help jog your memory, here's some events from US history and twi history... In 1975, "Jesus Christ is Not God" is published. "Saturday Night Live" begins airing on tv. Microsoft is founded. April 30, 1975. South Vietnam falls to Communist forces of North Vietnam. Attempted assassination of President Gerald Ford. In 1976, campuses are purchased in Rome City, Indiana ("the College of Biblical Research") and Gunnison, Colorado ("the Way Family Ranch-Camp Gunnison.") July 4, 1976, the US celebrates the 200th anniversary of the US Declaration of Independence with its Bicentennial celebrations. 1976, the Concorde begins flying Paris-NYC trips. 1976, the G6 is founded. In 1977, the PFAL '77 is done live at Ball State University. According to the memorial, in 1977, Howard Allen and "Uncle" Harry Wierwille were installed as Trustees on the Board of Trustees. In 1977, Volume 4 of Studies in Abundant Living was published. 1977, the Apple II is released. 1977, "Saturday Night Fever" comes out. The Atari 2600 VCS is released. The modem is invented. (Gerald Ford was US President 1974-1977) ========== Ok, the Bicentennial..... what happened?

When was this?

Many of us still believe that. ...after exposure to twi "leadership training." That doesn't tell you anything? Because it wasn't ONLY about the money-it was about CONTROL. The humiliation was social sanctions imposed to try to force conformity. They didn't want your money without your loyalty. They wanted your blind loyalty and strict obedience FIRST. Then the money is incidental, and they can jack up the ABS to any level LATER. That's simple sociology. And you KEPT coming back? It's only a question of WHEN.... The top leaders keep steering the ship for the jagged cliffs. The local leaders can make the deck events fantastic, but can't change that, and can't change the course-heading. Today they are.

Harry had it cupped in his hand at the time-the camera showed it. Ok, I can see that working. I wonder if the deleted scenes have something on that.... Once Belle said that, all I could picture was the Nora Desmond imitation. I'm unable to sit and watch Sunset Blvd because I keep hearing her scream "MAAAXXXX!!" when I try. Madame Maxime's name WAS taken from the word "maximum" (some variation of it) and so I would have accepted "curvy" in some degree or another- voluptuous or whatever- but THIN just didn't fly. This surprised me because I never bothered to follow up on the casting decisions so I didn't know what the actors looked like. I imagine we missed a number of scenes between them where this went back and forth,same as in the book. Either that, or Beaxbatons was such a wussy school that their top student STILL was only so good. I liked it a lot better than the third movie. Whatever happened to Mad-Eye's motto: "CONSTANT VIGILANCE!" and the references to never trusting his food and drink to not be drugged or whatever? It explained the hip flask quite nicely...

I think the saying is something like that. I do know that someone broke that rule once, and Stanslavski (founder of "the Method" of "Method Acting") used that as an example of what NOT to do. IIRC, in the movie, Neville gets nudged up to Harry, Harry and Neville have their discussion, and the scene immediately shifts to the next day, with Harry and Neville walking and talking, and Harry has the gillyweed PALMED. From then on, Harry's in full public view. Moody makes a comment to him about taking the gillyweed just before the start signal is given, but doesn't hand over anything. (And EVERYONE was watching the 4 champions.) ==== In the movie, Neville TELLS him about gillyweed, and Moody knows Neville told him, but there's no specific reference to how it got into Harry's hand. We know where it CAME from because Snape later confirmed his stores were missing gillyweed. So, it was in Snape's supplies, and then it was in Harry's hand. How it got from Point A to Point B was never specified. Did Harry have the time and skill to burgle the supplies at night or early in the morning? Neville's not good enough to handle a break-in (yet if ever).