I am dumb at this, do these 7 become Reverends, how does that work, is there a Reverend school, or is it, who one knows?
No, Rosie decides who is ordained and when. When ordination take place, it usually happens at an advanced class special. Ordinations are FEW and FAR between.
Thanks for showing me that, few and far between, that is sad in away; I may be out of line asking this, but could you start a tread on that Rev. few and far between, only you could put your finger on the heart of that few and far between, something just don't seem right about how they do that Rev. thing, thanks for maybe helping me learn about this Rev. more.
I remember being taught that God gave out gift ministries in order to aid a leader in serving His people... and that only after a gift ministry became apparent via the gift in action was a person ordained. But I think I remember VP or someone saying that God gave them the revelation on who should be ordained and when.
But wait, if it is obvious someone has a gift ministry, why would you need revelation to go ahead and ordain them? Because... (according to Craig) not everyone "needs" the title in order to have their gift function the best... but some do... and God knows which is which.
What????
Yup, typical twi --- absolutely contradictory, totally self-serving, and just as clear as mud!!
Thanks for showing me that, few and far between, that is sad in away; I may be out of line asking this, but could you start a tread on that Rev. few and far between, only you could put your finger on the heart of that few and far between, something just don't seem right about how they do that Rev. thing, thanks for maybe helping me learn about this Rev. more.
Well, I really can't say anymore than I did already. Truth is no one really knows how it works anymore because nothing had been said publicly since Craig was president. Like so much in the way international, things are very opaque.
I remember being taught that God gave out gift ministries in order to aid a leader in serving His people... and that only after a gift ministry became apparent via the gift in action was a person ordained. But I think I remember VP or someone saying that God gave them the revelation on who should be ordained and when.
In the early 1980's.....when I listened intently to the ordination issue, and was ordained, the central message was one who exemplified the attributes of I Timothy 3. The office of one's ordination was charged [throughout the book of Timothy] to teach right doctrine, to war a good warfare, to take care of the widows, to not be deceived by the riches of this world, to uphold moderation and consistent vigilance.
Ordination was the public recognition of one's commitment before God after having been selected by the elders of the church to this high honor of service.
I mean.. if way corpse "training" enable them to do some kind of staff job..
...
so what are the staff jobs?
Maybe they are sent to recruit computer science specialists to take their class, do their program, and clean rosie's toilet.. who knows..
Ham, you crack me up! Well Yes, of course we all know you need a Computer Science degree to properly clean a toilet out. I mean do we run the proper program to know which angle to hold the Tidy-Bowl Brush or what? Of course we do!
And we need to ensure Rosie's - Rosie Red *$$ - doesn't get any Viruses!!!
Oh yes, it's very definitely Computer Science! Good Call!
What is the whole reason given to these suckers to go through it? Just seems the same line would work only so long.. have they figured out something "original" to promise?
Thanks for sharing that link with me waysider, Sunesis made a good point, "When VeePee made his presence known, that thing slowed down." That is what I saw in Cheyenne, for a time their is groovy heart, then appeared what is in that thread.
How sad, 7 more people sent out to make money, I am glad I am not a good sells person, now I understand why they thumbed their nose at me.
I am dumb at this, do these 7 become Reverends, how does that work, is there a Reverend school, or is it, who one knows?
I once asked a branch coordinator how someone is chosen for ordination his reply was "God just tells the board of directors it's time to ordain so and so."
Looking back on that reply I think to myself when if ever has the bod heard anything from God and if they did I doubt they would listen.
I once asked a branch coordinator how someone is chosen for ordination his reply was "God just tells the board of directors it's time to ordain so and so."
Looking back on that reply I think to myself when if ever has the bod heard anything from God and if they did I doubt they would listen.
Perhaps this explains the VERY few ordinations taking place these days. Of course there aren't too many left to ordain.
Perhaps this explains the VERY few ordinations taking place these days. Of course there aren't too many left to ordain.
Actually the explanation is simple.
It's financial. When they ordain people, especially the more newly ordained, they are kind of giving them a position for life. Yes they can still burn them, but it's far more likely they will burn one of the people ordained not by Rozilla. They do a salt covenant with the Rozinator. So these are the guys they will put in Region positions (with a salary), Cabinet positions (higher salary), etc.
If you want to control expenses, you'll only put people in that kind of state if you are REALLY SURE they are absolute FANBOIs. And they've had so many over the years that start out FANBOIs and then grow a conscience. Like possibly BW. So any kind of little negative remarks are remembered - snitches can betray them, actually rumors here can arouse the paranoid suspicion of the Rozinator. Also, realize they no longer allow Corpze to read their personnel file. So they can toss all sorts of BS in there and the black marks accumulate.
So they don't want to split the pie up beyond their perceived consumption rate.
So in other words, the more we run our mouth, the less people they ordain. Which is fine with me. Keeps down the corruption level, the abuse of goodhearted people and the ego of FANBOIs from exploding. Well, beyond those that are officers and directors. Whose heads are so large they scarcely can walk without falling down.
When someone was ordained in twi, he/she received that emblematic ordination desk plaque with the person's engraved name. Before sealing the top corps seal (apostles/prophets/evangelists/pastors/teachers pentagon)......salt from the salt covenant was poured into the center.
Anyways......wierwille and/or martindale stated that these emblematic plaques were to be returned to hq AND PUBLICALLY DISPLAYED when twi clergy died.
When someone was ordained in twi, he/she received that emblematic ordination desk plaque with the person's engraved name. Before sealing the top corps seal (apostles/prophets/evangelists/pastors/teachers pentagon)......salt from the salt covenant was poured into the center.
Anyways......wierwille and/or martindale stated that these emblematic plaques were to be returned to hq AND PUBLICALLY DISPLAYED when twi clergy died.
Has anyone seen these displayed at hq?
I never have. There are probably a few closets I have not been in around there. But who knows, lots of nooks and crannies where they could be displayed privately.
When someone was ordained in twi, he/she received that emblematic ordination desk plaque with the person's engraved name. Before sealing the top corps seal (apostles/prophets/evangelists/pastors/teachers pentagon)......salt from the salt covenant was poured into the center.
Anyways......wierwille and/or martindale stated that these emblematic plaques were to be returned to hq AND PUBLICALLY DISPLAYED when twi clergy died.
Has anyone seen these displayed at hq?
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No, Rosie decides who is ordained and when. When ordination take place, it usually happens at an advanced class special. Ordinations are FEW and FAR between.
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Thanks for showing me that, few and far between, that is sad in away; I may be out of line asking this, but could you start a tread on that Rev. few and far between, only you could put your finger on the heart of that few and far between, something just don't seem right about how they do that Rev. thing, thanks for maybe helping me learn about this Rev. more.
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I remember being taught that God gave out gift ministries in order to aid a leader in serving His people... and that only after a gift ministry became apparent via the gift in action was a person ordained. But I think I remember VP or someone saying that God gave them the revelation on who should be ordained and when.
But wait, if it is obvious someone has a gift ministry, why would you need revelation to go ahead and ordain them? Because... (according to Craig) not everyone "needs" the title in order to have their gift function the best... but some do... and God knows which is which.
What????
Yup, typical twi --- absolutely contradictory, totally self-serving, and just as clear as mud!!
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Well, I really can't say anymore than I did already. Truth is no one really knows how it works anymore because nothing had been said publicly since Craig was president. Like so much in the way international, things are very opaque.
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Does anyone think that this 7 were lured, just maybe lured in to thinking they could be a Rev. or thing else?
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In the early 1980's.....when I listened intently to the ordination issue, and was ordained, the central message was one who exemplified the attributes of I Timothy 3. The office of one's ordination was charged [throughout the book of Timothy] to teach right doctrine, to war a good warfare, to take care of the widows, to not be deceived by the riches of this world, to uphold moderation and consistent vigilance.
Ordination was the public recognition of one's commitment before God after having been selected by the elders of the church to this high honor of service.
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Ham, you crack me up! Well Yes, of course we all know you need a Computer Science degree to properly clean a toilet out. I mean do we run the proper program to know which angle to hold the Tidy-Bowl Brush or what? Of course we do!
And we need to ensure Rosie's - Rosie Red *$$ - doesn't get any Viruses!!!
Oh yes, it's very definitely Computer Science! Good Call!
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Shorter lunch lines?
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Thanks for sharing that link with me waysider, Sunesis made a good point, "When VeePee made his presence known, that thing slowed down." That is what I saw in Cheyenne, for a time their is groovy heart, then appeared what is in that thread.
How sad, 7 more people sent out to make money, I am glad I am not a good sells person, now I understand why they thumbed their nose at me.
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OMG tell them to RUN AWAY! Be Free!!!! Biblical Research my foot when Pigs Fly
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Maybe they should rename the program "Way Core".
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no, it's HERE
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I once asked a branch coordinator how someone is chosen for ordination his reply was "God just tells the board of directors it's time to ordain so and so."
Looking back on that reply I think to myself when if ever has the bod heard anything from God and if they did I doubt they would listen.
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Perhaps this explains the VERY few ordinations taking place these days. Of course there aren't too many left to ordain.
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Actually the explanation is simple.
It's financial. When they ordain people, especially the more newly ordained, they are kind of giving them a position for life. Yes they can still burn them, but it's far more likely they will burn one of the people ordained not by Rozilla. They do a salt covenant with the Rozinator. So these are the guys they will put in Region positions (with a salary), Cabinet positions (higher salary), etc.
If you want to control expenses, you'll only put people in that kind of state if you are REALLY SURE they are absolute FANBOIs. And they've had so many over the years that start out FANBOIs and then grow a conscience. Like possibly BW. So any kind of little negative remarks are remembered - snitches can betray them, actually rumors here can arouse the paranoid suspicion of the Rozinator. Also, realize they no longer allow Corpze to read their personnel file. So they can toss all sorts of BS in there and the black marks accumulate.
So they don't want to split the pie up beyond their perceived consumption rate.
So in other words, the more we run our mouth, the less people they ordain. Which is fine with me. Keeps down the corruption level, the abuse of goodhearted people and the ego of FANBOIs from exploding. Well, beyond those that are officers and directors. Whose heads are so large they scarcely can walk without falling down.
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Speaking of ordinations....
When someone was ordained in twi, he/she received that emblematic ordination desk plaque with the person's engraved name. Before sealing the top corps seal (apostles/prophets/evangelists/pastors/teachers pentagon)......salt from the salt covenant was poured into the center.
Anyways......wierwille and/or martindale stated that these emblematic plaques were to be returned to hq AND PUBLICALLY DISPLAYED when twi clergy died.
Has anyone seen these displayed at hq?
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I never have. There are probably a few closets I have not been in around there. But who knows, lots of nooks and crannies where they could be displayed privately.
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all over the sidewalks in the winter . . . it's a good idea . . . helps prevent accidents . . . that's why wayfers aren't allowed to use the stairs indoors . . .
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