Nottawayfer

They ARE controlled by the men. I live in the same county as the same group in Colorado City, Arizona. These people come to our office. I work for the Assessor. There is another group next to Colorado City called Centennial Park. They are an offshoot from the FLDS. They do polygamy a little better. I'm saying that tongue in cheek. They don't appear to be in the dark ages as much, and they have interraction with others outside their community. There's a woman who is the superintendent for the Colorado City School district. She from Centennial Park. She stepped up to the position from another in the school district when things went south after the Colorado City folks pulled out of their positions because of investigation. There was suspicion that much of the school district's budget had been poured to Warren Jeffs, their leader, who is now on trial. Our office lowered some values, and this new school superintendent called because she was furious. Our lowering values meant she had to increase her tax rate and get flack from those outside these two religious groups who were in that school district. She could have kept the tax rate the same, but that would mean teh school district would suffer MORE. A bunch in our office went up there to have a huge meeting with the taxpayers. Now when this lady called me, she was a complete beyotch demanding to know this and that. Once you got her in her group of men, she was quiet as a church mouse. She was not allowed to speak. The men took control over the meeting, and this lady had no say even though she was the school superintendent. The men do control everything in these groups.

I don't remember 80/20. I remember 100%; and if you had a hard time understanding a portion, you were told to "hold in in abeyance" until you did. I never saw a marginal line of understanding in TWI. Try making one subject, say the trinity, as questionable. They would hammer anyone who questioned their doctrine on the Trinity.

She might seem OK with your doctrinal difference now. If she's a committed "believer", she will try to talk you in to taking classes, going to fellowship. If you don't, be prepared to get dumped. If she is looking to get out, then you might be OK. If she seems she does want out of TWI, send her here. This place has been a wonderful place to get some frustrations vented about TWI.

Well, Mike, since you struggled valiantly to keep it on topic......

Dang! I thought this thread was about CFF. PFAL??? Mike??? Again???? I thought you were hiding somewhere else on GSC.

What's in it? Or is it a special hand shake???

I had a georgous roommate who was in the WC and black. She and an asian guy hooked up and wanted to get married, but leadership discouraged it. She's still single and at least 50 and still supporting TWI. I want to ask her how's that working, but I don't want to rub it in. TWI got involved in way too many personal aspects of people's lives. I knew of another girl who lived in the northern part of oru state who was dating a guy in the southern part. She wanted to move to be closer to him and develop the relationship more. She was going to move in with me and my roommates. She was also discouraged by leadership saying it wasn't the best move. People wake up!!

Dang Shellon! I thought for sure we would hug and kiss when we met.....sigh.

That might be a great line to tell somone the next time they knock on my door to offer their god. Panama City Sailor wanna hump hump bar...... Panama City Sailor wanna hump hump bar......

Leif Garrett....gosh I haven't heard that name for eons! I thought he was the bomb when I was in high school.

My WOW Family Coordinator told me he got a girl pregnant while he was in residence. He didn't have money to pay for an abortion, so I assume it was paid for by TWI. This guy had a fling with my WOW sister and many other girls who were wooed by him that year. He even tried to woo me. It was very deceptive. He was giving me a backrub. It seemed harmless. Remember, everyone gave each other backrubs in the early 80s. Then he started kissing my neck. I got up and excused myself. It felt weird and gross to have my WOW brother doing that. He didn't try agaiin after that.

BLECH!!!!

I signed up for the class, but I am really behind right now. I spent the previous 2 weeks taking care of my nephew while my sister had twin baby girls. I'm reading chapter 1 still. I started to listen to the podcast for chapter 1, but I need to finish the chapter first. I don't know what I'm expecting out of this. Eckhart Tolle says either you will be enlightened or bored. If you are ready for enlightenment, you will get it. Am I ready?

Evan Williams would be right. I don't think he's involved anymore. I worked with his mom on staff until she moved to Toledo in 1999 or so. I think the Angela you speak of was Angela Coleman. She had brothers named Tom and Sam. Last I knew, she was divorced with 3 or 4 kids and is a police officer in Austin, Texas.

SOM, Try it; you might like it. I promise they won't taste like sandpaper.

I was in TWI from 1983 to 2002. I came to GSC before I left TWI. This place was a haven for me to vent my frustrations and things that just didn't make sense from a godly perspective. I found out that my experiences were not isolated incidences. I also found out that TWI really is a cult. Leaving TWI was like a divorce for me. I felt betrayed and suckered. I was ....ed off and wanted to chop some heads. I'm over that now. I just hope to provide a light of hope for anyone else who wants to leave. It is a despicable organization. I post a lot less than when I first came here, but I thank God for the understanding listeners here at the cafe who lended a shoulder.

I only like herbal teas. I warm my water up in the microwave, and I put a bag of STASH Peppermint tea in it. I let it sit for 5 minutes. I must be a tea heathen.

I am trying to eat healthier. I'm trying to cut out most sugar (this is hard for me), white flour, white rice, and white anything except califlower. I was craving pancakes one night when I was trying to figure out what I wanted for dinner. Then I remembered a recipe I had in my South Beach Cook Book. I don't follow that program, but it has some great ideas. Here's the recipe for the healthy pancakes. 1/2 C Old Fashioned Oats (not instant) 1/4 C Cottage Cheese (preferrably low fat) 4 Egg Whites 1 tsp vanilla 1/4 tsp cinnamon 1/4 tsp nutmeg Process all of the ingredients in a blender and cook in a non-stick skillet with cooking spray. I put 1 T peanut butter and 2 T low sugar preserves on my pancakes, and they are delicious!! You could use low sugar syrup if you are cutting out sugar, but I still have yet to find one I like.

I know that no current wayfers will go to Sedona because one limb coordinator from a few years ago declared it "evil" because of the amount of spiritualism which surrounds the place. I went there for long weekends a few times, and I enjoy the beauty God made there. I don't believe for one minute it is an evil place. If someone lives close to a beautiful place,a nd they don't go to enjoy it, they are losing out IMHO.

I remembered hearing him say that they guy with AIDS had to constantly believe or he would get sick again. Is that how the ONE TRUE GOD OF TWI heals? I wonder if the man born blind who was healed by Jesus had to believe every day to keep his sight once he was healed. TWI always taught that healing was a gift. I think if God gives a gift, he doesn't take it back. Like anything taught in TWI, their doctrine is full of holes. My inlaws went to the Phillipines for psychic surgery. I think psychic surgery is slight of hand and a bunch of BS.

I pray nobody is feeding their dog Ole Roy. That is TERRIBLE food! Your dog's poop will be the same color as the food. That tells me there isn't much digestion happening and not much nutrition in the food.

I didn't read all the posts on this thread, but it reminded me of a time in my life where I thought all promise was lost. I was 31 and divorced from a 6-year marriage. I was headed in to my 30s without kids and a husband, which I NEVER dreamed would be my life. I spent the next 9 years single. Again, something I NEVER dreamed would be my life. Was life full of disappointments during those years? Hell yes. Did I cry? Hell yes. Was I lonely? Hell yes. Especially when I was on Staff at HQ for 5 years. Those were some of my most lonely years. They were lonely while I was watching women getting hitched and hooked up. After leaving TWI, I had time to think about me and what my beliefs were. I had time to find my ownself and figure out what I wanted in my life, and what kind of person I wanted be post-cult. It did a world of great, not just good. I made a decision that I would enjoy my life whether I had a partner or not. I would not get bitter because I didn't have kids. I would not get bitter because I wasn't having regular sex. I would not get bitter because bitter would make bitchy and untolerable. Gawd knows we have enough people like that. I just didn't want it to be me.

The Google ads at the top of page show Anthony Bourdain No Reservations. I wonder if the word "haggis" made that come up. Anthony Bourdain eats some really strange stuff. I would consider haggis in that category.

Oh my gawd the parallels of the crap done to people is freaky and weird. Ex Scientologist Story

SOOO TRUE!!! Trust and Obey, Did you have any contact with Paul Allen to hear his side of the story? He confronted the BOT. He got nowhere. He did the next best thing. If TWI had been the godly organization it claims to be, then thing would have been a lot different.