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You got it, George. Bring it on!!!

I for one, find it quite amusing that VPW thought he could actually walk on water. I heard another one that was equally as stupid. VPW gets to the throne of God and God says "you may enter the kingdom if you answer one question". Vp agrees. God then says, "can you help me understand this section in Eph. 3?" VARIATION: God then says "Can you minister to this pain in my back?" OK, GJ, I know that is off topic. ( The topic being how they expected us to do and say lame things for the sole purpose of promoting their cause.) I remember once in Fellowlaborers we had to smile and say "God Bless You." to every person we met that day. Yep. That's a foolproof method of convincing your coworkers you are not involved in something weird. NOT!!

But then again, maybe she LOST the arm-wrestling contest. Food for thought.

[quote name='oldiesman' date='Jul 5 2007, 09:42 AM' post='347535' He will gladly, share and post about every evil work committed in twi but doesn't allow "positive" and "godly" experiences and happenings of those of us who may want to share them. What does that tell you? It suggests to me that he has a purpose for his site that is specific and focused. It also suggests to me that he is aware that people wishing to have a forum-like discussion can find that type of activity at GSC. The real "poison" was session #7, Oldies. That's the session that teaches us to put on blinders and deny the reality all around us. If you won't even *consider* that to have some validity, you will have proved my point. We all know you had good times in the old days. I did, too. Lots of people did. That doesn't change or excuse what was really going on behind the scenes when a good many of us were out of the sight lines. STAGE DIRECTION----- Enter Oldiesman

GSG In that one, "Susie wore her dresses tight." And then, of course. there was also "Wake Up Little Susie". Hmmm. This Susie seem to have been quite a popular gal! No wonder she was everyone's childhood sweetheart.

PS-----I dig the Newton quote in your signature.

I just want to know why pigs are living in "trees". All that talk about giant "beavers" caught my eye, though. But seriously Mr. B. All I'm saying is that maybe there are elements of both schools that are right and maybe there are elements of both schools that are wrong. It doesn't necessarily make Genesis wrong, just our understanding of its' true meaning. The fact that we don't understand its' full meaning makes it no less or more real. If we never arrive at its' "true meaning", it won't change that "true meaning". That "all or nothing" line of thought was a big part of PFAL that I now consider to be more of a sales technique than a valid approach to logical exploration of facts. I believe there is room to consider both aspects of the subject without having to exclude one or the other. I also believe that the subject is really beyond the scope of what the human mind can process. And heck, that's all just my opinion anyhow.

"Fear is sand in the machinery of life." (A quote that VPW borrowed for someone who attained a higher level of notability in the world's eyes than VPW ever did.) Anyhow, I'm glad I finally realize that I've been misreading the actual quote for all these years. Ya see, I thought he said "Fear is a SANDWICH in the machinery of life." I could never figure out if it was a PB&J or a BLT. Maybe even a Fluffernutter. It suddenly became clear to me that it must have been bologna. Ya live and ya learn.

Rules for watching fireworks: FIRST the Ohhh!'s-----THEN the Ahhh!'s Our city canceled them this year due to budget cuts. You would never know it if you looked outside at all the activity that obviously must be private. Our population is something like 40 or 50 thousand. The mayor said he received a total of 3 e-mails complaining of the decision. A few years ago, we had a fatality at our professionally run show.(spectator) My neighbor's son, who was about 14 or 15 at the time, was sitting right next to the victim when it happened. He'll live with that image the rest of his life. I'm conflicted on the matter. On one hand the city saves 20 to 30 grand on the show. On the other hand, it encourages the "clueless" to take matters into their own hands. Personally, my reaction to fireworks is something along these lines: "Yep, that's a red one alright." "Uh huh, that sure was a loud one."

"They need to know God loves them, God made everything and will always be there for them." ---------WG-------------- Maybe that's all we adults really need to know as well.

Katy There is loads and loads of info here at the Cafe that is not in the forum areas. There is a tutorial for newcomers to help direct them in their quest. That might be a good place to start to gather info. With that said, I would like to tell you that at the very HEART of Way(TWI) "philosophy" is the idea that one must "STAND" strong in one's convictions and never even consider for a moment anything that might seem to contradict one's beliefs. It was even taught in their entry level class(PFAL) that to do so will mark the beginning of one's downfall. According to Way doctrine, this is how the devil was able to trick Eve. I hope you can see why that would make the prospect of reasoning with someone who is involved in TWI an exercise in futility unless you were already knowledgeable of the many finer points of their belief system. Oh, BTW. Welcome to The Cafe

I was thinking more like " All In The Family". Then again, I'm a Buckeye,(ie: a worthless nut) I wore high-top shoes and shirt tails Susie was in pigtails I knew I loved her even then.

On one hand, the complexities of nature and the physical world strongly suggest there must be some superior, intelligent, driving force behind life on planet Earth. It almost seems ludicrous that we consider it all to have happened randomly. How does a parrot in the Amazon determine it must eat clay to neutralize the effects of toxic seeds? On the other hand, there is powerfully persuasive evidence that, not only is evolution real, but it can happen at an excruciatingly slow pace or rapidly, as the circumstance dictates. There are plenty of examples of this in scientific journals. Take our concept of God and religion out of the fracas for a moment and consider the possibility that perhaps it is humanly impossible to comprehend the complexity of the subject at hand. And, like the concept of the limits defining eternity, why will it make one bit of difference in our day-to-day lives whether we know the answer or not? Life was so much less complicated when we marveled at the beauty of a butterfly and gave no thought to its' origin.

"E=MC2" Perhaps one of the most powerful quotes in modern science. ;)

Perhaps that explains why you may have been unaware of the true nature of TWI's sanctioned lifestyle. Just a thought.

Is it "Rocky Top" by Dolly Parton?

Most of my "rah!, rah!" years were spent as a single person. I saw some of the aforementioned behavior but didn't have a clue it was not relegated to isolated incidents. It's one of those things where you look back and go:

Hi, Walking. I think you probably have more ambition than I do. If your ear can't tell the difference, who cares? Unless, of course, it's a matter of price. I don't know how to tell the difference without some lab test that I'm sure you are not going to do. I can tell you this, though, in my line of work, people often ask me how they can tell the difference between sodium residue and calcium residue.(Bone is made of calcium.) Sodium residue is water soluble, calcium is not, nor is plastic. Applying a bit of white vinegar to suspected calcium build-up will usually cause it to fizz enough to at least give a positive ID. It won't do anything to plastic. I suppose a very minute amount of the bridge material (in powdered form ) would produce similar results. Sounds like a lot of trouble to go to, though, if it's only to satisfy curiosity. That's all just guess work on my part. Sounds like a nice guitar if the price is right.

Unless he was actually there, he doesn't really "know" the facts, he only "knows" what he has heard. There is no law that says you can't hear a rumor. Likewise, there is no law that says you must repeat it.( unless you are under oath) Boys that age are notorious for trying to take credit for such activity whether they did it or not so what he has heard may well be just "posturing". The real culprit in such an instance is more than happy to fall back into the shadows of the unnoticed.(unless his motive was attention ) Giving up your buds can have some serious repercussions. Not worth risking based solely on rumor and posturing. I had this----ummm---- "friend" who found himself in a similar situation once. He held his ground even as the bright lights shone in his face and he had to pee so bad his tonsils were singing "Anchors Aweigh". To this day, both his legs work just fine.(ie; never been broken) Now, if he is privy to some actual, provable facts regarding the scenario, it's a whole different ball game.

Count On Me

Thanks, Mr. Miller That's a nice looking guitar.(Wouldn't mind one for myself) I have dealt with that company before and have no complaints thus far. Prices are usually fair and the merchandise has always arrived well packaged. PS---Back up a few posts and you will find some Rich DelGrosso. Not exactly your style of mando but interesting none the less.

You Bettcha!

I was kinda hopin' somebody would respond with: "No! No! He's outside looking in!" I worked like a slave for years Sweat so hard just to end my fears Not to end my life a poor man But by now, I know I should have run.

I finally got up the courage to watch it. Is the guy off pitch? Yep. Does it make much difference? Nope. I thought the singer at stage left had a fairly pleasant voice. Harmonies seemed appropriately tight. Choreography was horrendous. Costuming was atrocious. They tried to dress it up with a heavy bass line. Didn't work.( At least not for me) Very mechanical, no message conveyed. Reminded me of the Christopher Walken/ Fat Boy Slim video from a couple years ago. Anybody remember that one? (Walken dancing in the hotel) Song was a throw-away.(IMO) What REALLY caught me was how the audience responded so enthusiastically. I didn't expect them to boo, but I didn't think anything beyond a polite applause was appropriate.

Well, first I found myself listed as a member of a trade organization I belong to. No surprise there. Next, I found someone with the same last name (which I had always thought was unique) and a different first name, who had designed a very well known public service campaign character.( It was his obit that I stumbled on.) Related? Don't know. Then I found some with the same last name who are/were involved in scientific research that completely escapes my understanding. Alter egos? No. Interesting? Yes.