Allan

If they kept going the way they were there'd be no-one left.......that's why there's no-one left....hardly

Maybe skyrider said Christians aren't hypocrites ? I didn't...they are as hypocritical as EVERYONE else...so skyrider can post pretty much whatever skyrider wants about whatever skyrider wants and however skyrider wants to...surely ? without someone like you pointing the finger...unless you consider yourself ( less ) hypocritical than others, orrrr non- hypocritical at all...only difference is you're a moderator...hopefully not drunk on 'power'

Geesh, all Skyrider did was use a CURRENT AMERICAN, maybe local ? situation as an EXAMPLE not a COMPARISON to illustrate a point of POSSIBLE double standard thinking ??!! Are we supposed to sit down and pre think EVERY FRACKN WORD IN A SENTENCE before we post ??!! I agree with Skyrider , this echoes of twi lol...I guess the real point is EVERYBODY is SELFISH. Millions die every week yet I betcha none of you nor myself lay awake at night devastated because an 80 year old in Turkmenistan (sp ?) died of a heart attack ?! Nooooo...why ? because we are really only affected by what directly affects us...merry frackn xmas

altho I got chewed out from Wayne for nearly burning down Indiana campus because I left a pressure cooker full of cranberries cooking whilst a fire alarm had gone off somewhere else on grounds !

ummmm...getting reamed because during a game of social volleyball my wife dived for a ball in front of me...showed the mog very clearly that she led the marriage and I needed to 'man up' ...yepppp

Amen to that ! Just want to take this time to wish you, Raf, Wordwolf and everybody else on here a very, very, merry Xmas !!!!!!! LNB

Nothing wrong with a bit of fervour tho is there ??

And I presume that the 'first century church' a.k.a 'followers of that Way' 'Christun' were defined by...?

Two of the country co-ordinators' goons were sent around to my house to potentially murder me, if my story may help I can pm you !!! Actually one of the goons that turned up was the one that initially witnessed to me....oh, the irony of it all lol what kept me involved longer than anything else was Dave Lutz' music

well golly gee, me wonders what language Cornelius and his household spoke for Peter (an unlearned man) to know that they were glorifying God ?! wordwolf says multiple accounts of tongues being understood, you say "common for them not to be recognized" wordwolf wants me to analyse the reason for this ? o.k.....some people understood and others didn't and others yet again had interpretation

I think any perceived insults are no more than what you and raf imply in your comments ? ...I'd say that stating that people are lying( re: not admitting faking their tongues etc...) is insulting ?! As for interpretation of tongues I don't believe there is a need to do the usual and analyse it to death when the Bible is pretty clear that at times it will be UNKNOWN, certainly to the one speaking, hence tongues for private prayer life etc... K.I.S.S. method !

Have you figured out why it says to 'interpret tongues' if the 'biblical tongues' are already known to the group present ?

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I'm surprised you'd 'use it ' (tongues) wordwolf, given that you don't appear to count it for much more than mumbo jumbo ! Also, let's not be pedantic again eh ? Cook Islands...Cook Island language...I think I know 'by experience' as I have lived on a couple of the Islands and my wife is from another of them k? I don't think I discounted dialect as I'm FROM New Zealand and the native tongue has numerous dialects...also have many friends from Scotland so really, in a nutshell, you and Raf have displayed rather a misguided, smug, conceited and VERY IGNORANT attitude/understanding/argument...IMHO

BTW Raf...the pacific Island language I mentioned in earlier post that you asked "can I name it ? " and quickly followed with "thought not " was Cook Island and a certain dialect from one of their smaller outer islands...specific enough for you ? now...stop 'presuming'

Not wanting to be awful but a lot of man's wisdom appears to be offered here ! I believe, (is that o.k. wordwolf as I BELIEVE using the term 'guess' gets you a little ruffled lol ) that God can pretty well do whatever He wants with languages, tongues, holy spirit etc...didn't He confound a whole bunch of people with their tongues/languages around Babel at one point in time ??!! And Raf, you 'presumed' that I'm trying to convince you of something you're not convinced on ? Never entered my mind. I'm convinced of modern day/ first century tongues and that's all that matters to me. Even if I've got the 'wrong end of the stick' concerning biblical tongues..I'm edified by it, even if it's unknown to me when I speak it. Even if I've got it somehow wrong concerning Pauls heart for all to s.i.t. Even if I'm wrong in thinking of it as perfect prayer etc...I'd rather continue to be blessed by it than putting people off of it ( 1 Corinthians 14:39 ), because Raf, wordwolf...IF you are wrongly misinterpreting it...that means you're rooting in the wrong corner

I guess Jesus isn't/wasn't real either because we weren't actually there to verify it either ?

Kind of hard for me to identify the language Raf when the Word of God says it's an unknown language isn't it ??!! Tongues of men /angels...I must say though that I've heard tongues from a person that contained words from a pacific Island language, german, Italian ( languages that I know reasonably well )all rolled into one...who says the spirit of God can't do that either ??!! TBH I couldn't care less what you think of what I think anymore than I care that you felt the need to fake it

I'm gutted too Out n About !!! To finally have it pointed out to me I was faking it all these years lol....I guess the Apostle Paul and all the first century church folk were master fakers as well ( or taught wrongly ) ?

I'm sorry you believe there are 16 liars on this forum ! Now here's an amazing thing, before I confessed Jesus as lord, I couldn't do it, after Confessing, I could...enunciated, syllabic words that I don't understand let alone know how I'm doing it !But yes, tongues, words, glossalia, whatever you want to call it, I did/do it !! I'm sorry if you faked it, but please don't presume to speak on my behalf !!

Oh, looking at the poll again it seems the first and last selection are pretty neck and neck ?! Kind of like a hundred people camping in a forest. The next morning 50 claimed to have seen a Yeti and the other 50 said they hadn't lol

The first red flag was going into family corps and seeing adultery take place on campus that was 'looked over' by leadership....exit...stage right ! Actually, I wonder if it was more a matter of so many of them having been in 'the Word' for so long that they...just didn't really care anymore ?

Yeah nah...they know how that kind of freethink goes down...like a plutonium balloon