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The church I'm involved with is big time into helping people get ahead...they've bought people cars, helped them with business start ups etc....bless and be blessed is one of their beliefs...I guess THAT's what ' practise believing to bring abundance to you and the church should really mean ?!'

Like I said in a much earlier post, he was the mog who got on the phone to me after we told mosquito we were leaving campus and said they would pay our airfares back to n.z. IF we kept our mouths shut about what we had seen going on...I guess that qualifies him as prez lol

Well said DWBH !!! can I just ask, was that 'inspired utterance' ?? It almost sounds like a 'thus sayeth the Lord' moment lol...man did you hit the nail bang smack on the head....and to everyone here...THAT is why GS is still very important TODAY...so if you haven't donated yet, please give something/ anything !!

and that's the thing, IF WP had been allowed to progress, they would/could have been as well known as Hillsong !!!!! :(

Hey , we're expanding ! How about that lol

I think you hit the nail on the head OldSkool !! A number of them hung around 'hoping' they would be the next prez , or if not them, someone they were 'palywaly' with, who would help feather their nest. Then when their hopes are shattered, they muster up the cahunas to finally leave. Maybe what Rico described about revelation is true...in HIS own mind. Seriously, things became so warped and twisted and lah lah in twi that one could talk oneself into believing almost anything !!

Password for a (Christian) website ??!! I know some sites do have them for their leadership page/forum BUT not to just try to surf their site lol. How is anyone expected to be blessed or informed with their site ? ;) What are they afraid of ? critics ? mockers ? Dang shame, I had a loose 20k sitting around I wanted to donate to them

I agree with Twinky...ás I said to someone recently, I couldn't do the tongues thing before I was shown/led into it...then I could...and I'm not that smart to be able to make it up ! I'm talking syllabic, enunciated, glossalia...I've also run 'classes' where raving homo's have been led into tongues which proves that of a truth God is no respecter of persons. I've also been in services ( not twi ) where people have 'tongued' in languages not known to them BUT I have recognized words ( I speak a number of languages) sometimes a mish mash of English, German ,Pacific Islands and Latin for God's sake....from the one person, freaked me right out...anyhoo, that's my 2 cents worth :)

And then again, weren't there murders that happened in twi ( purportedly)

yeahp, there were a number of barf moments in the 3 minutes I watched lol...thanks Twinky & others for watching all of it, I looked outside and the grass was growing faster, you know what I mean ....there is no way in 'h' they were going to turn up at a bod meeting singularly or even in twosies, they know how it rolls, they knew what they'd cop COZ they've ALL been on the other side of the table when reeming the pee-on's ..my thoughts are pretty much summed up in this song

Hi there ! That'll be me :) wanna chat ?

Well said Chockfull, they are all too s#*t scared to even step foot into other churches ( lest they be possessed) to LEARN how to do some/many things differn'tly ! It's bleatingly obvious that MORE works in other churches than those with way mentality. Other churches are ALIVE, PROSPERING, FLOURISHING...imagine that ( and that's without the 'accuracy' of the Word ) !!

O.k. well Here's a little something from me as a token of my appreciation of what yáll do...sorry it's in Australian dollars :)

One of them on my list is my bro-in-law....So I can tell you AT LEAST one or two on that list really haven't changed. I did mention on here a way back, a list/book was being compiled to address decades long areas of concern. I mean, seriously, anyone with any even half a sense of decency have already left and moved on and enjoying their new life of 'abundance & power' I agree whole heartedly with DWBH..the ones calling for 'change', where would they even BEGIN to address the wrongs and hurts THEY THEMSELVES inflicted on those that had sense to leave ??? maybe they could start with just once again, reading Gods' Word for enjoyment and understanding ?? maybe then, verses like this would leap off the pages at them... "therefore if you bring your gift to the altar and there remember your brother has something against you, leave your gift before the altar and go your way and first be reconciled to your brother and THEN come and offer your gift before the altar" - Jesus...Matthew 5:23,24

Yes, how did it go ? I'm about to hit donate button as I believe GSC is still needed, vital,illuminating and informative.!!!

To walk the grounds ?...the whole place leaches spiritual pus, the spirit of whoredom, injustice, bribery, murder, deceit, lies, ad hominem....truly a place where angels would fear to tread.

New Zealands version of Mid-West USA tornadoes :0

When my wife and I and kids decided to leave Indiana family campus in '94 coz we saw some things going on that would have made a resident of Sodom and Gomorrah blush, it was jean yves de Liar that got on the phone to me and said they would pay our airfares back to New Zealand ONLY IF we agreed to keep our mouths shut as to what we had seen going on around us...kinda says it all...doesn't it ?!

Thankyou for posting Randy ! I think the horrible part is knowing now that not just the kids but the waiters, waitresses, the people that set up the room, the chefs, really all the behind and in front scenes people with great hearts could at any time be 'reamed', yelled and screamed at, reproved heavily for any minor misdemeanour such as, oh I don't know, perhaps missing their cue to come over to a table for something.....by any of those stepford smile women there. Quite devilish actually

Jean Yves de Liar...hmmnnnn...you mean the guy that called me on the phone when my family and I decided to check out of hotel Indiana californication halfway through our family corps training ?? The guy that said to me that twi would pay our airfares back to New Zealand BUT only IF we kept our mouths shut as to the things we had seen going on ?? The guy that ordered Paul Mosquito who was running Indiana campus at the time to throw me out of Stone Halls top window if I dared open my mouth before being escorted off campus ?? Jean yves de Liar who instructed New Zealand country co-ordinator to send goons round to my home once we got back to physically attack me in an attempt to intimidate me into silence ??.....Top pick for the job...lmao

Also ( I'm on a roll here thanks to my lovely 'corona' with a twist of lime lol )...I ran a foundational class about ten years ago with 2 off the chain, dyed in the wool, flamboyantly 'gay' guys in it. last session both of them spoke in tongues like the proverbial 'house on fire'....now, if you believe in s.i.t. as I do, that was confirmation to me that God does indeed desire to have ALL saved and come to a knowledge of the truth !!!!

Also, the state government here adopted a school curriculum encompassing a programme called 'safe schools'. It was meant to be about promoting anti- bullying against lgbtt school kids. Turned out it was really about promoting pornography and 'lifestyle' choices to children as young as 7...needless to say there has been a major enquiry into this. Bottom line I guess is, everybody/organization has an 'agenda' of some sort.

After reading the above articles I'm still of the mind "where does this end ? Is there some sort of line that NEEDS to be drawn ? " ...here in Sydney, Australia a mother has decided to bring her two children up 'gender neutral'...in other words, letting them dress in whatever they want, play with whatever they want, make up for the boy etc....basically deciding as they grow, what 'sex' they want to be/become. I really wonder if this is laying the ground work for real problems later on.....

You'll finally get a President that's worth being in office ? lol

I think the fact there have been no new posts in the open forum is a pointer that things can get a bit stale here ? Why not bring back a political forum and increase traffic and fire things up again with forum posters ! Surely a political forum would give GS a 'holistic' platform that encompasses so much more that affects us on a spiritual and political and social scale..thankyou