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And psychopathy.

The trappings of narcissism.

There was a LOT of that... you are definitely not alone.

Some decided to actually have a life of their own choosing. The doulos "teaching" wasn't even subtle in its manipulation/indoctrination. Become slaves to TWI as a surrogate for God.

Nope, still moping around Toledo. Still, as I understand, living in that TWI paid for home and receiving a respectable (size) pension. Woe is him.

When Victor Barnard is found and brought to justice, corporate media will have renewed interest in TWI.

Definitely an eye opener. You are certainly welcome.

Neither celebrate nor mourn for me. I'm beyond both. But I may find something else to celebrate.

Here's another. Victor Barnard.

Social psychologist Philip Zimbardo on the Lucifer Effect. It's directly related to what took place in The Way and in Victor Barnard's cult. "Perhaps no one comprehends the roots of depravity and cruelty better than Philip Zimbardo. He is renowned for such research as the Stanford Prison Experiment, which demonstrated how, in the right circumstances, ordinary people can swiftly become amoral monsters. Evil is not so much inherent in individuals, Zimbardo showed, but emerges dependably when a sequence of dehumanizing and stressful circumstances unfolds." You can skip the first 4:45 wihich is entirely introductions It's all about lack of social accountability.

Close, but you have to take out the spaces to make it work (not magic, but on Twitter) #LetMyPeopleGo

"Everything somehow needs to be dramatized!" It's somebody's story. She has a right to tell it. What anyone does with it after that is not something she can be expected to control. I don't mind criticism (not necessarily assuming you were criticizing any one of the posters/commenters here, including me), but I will offer some in return. Have you even considered what it's like to be in Ms. Knight's shoes? I have plenty of disdain for corporate media that may exploit the situation for a salacious ratings grab, but really if the person whose story it is wants the story told, and people are interested in knowing it, who am I to judge her? She doesn't come off as a publicity hound, but rather as someone who did, indeed experience unspeakable horror. It's not my place to judge her. I question whether it's any of ours. My question then would be, why are you watching it?

Another excerpt from Kristen's post (linked above): The code of silence is penetrated through one’s initial decision to heal and one’s courage to begin to tell the truth about oneself in a safe place. This, accompanied by education about physical, sexual, psychological and spiritual abuse allows the individual to start on the journey towards wholeness. True expression of one’s feelings, especially anger, makes healing possible. As one grows stronger, one may even expand the stage of disclosure to include the world at large. So then, truth begets truth. Light begets light. But it is not enough to know the truth. Survivors of abuse are accustomed to disconnecting psychologically and emotionally from a painful reality . This dissociation is a major survival tool. In order to heal, it becomes necessary to connect with oneself, not dissociate from the trauma. In mind control situations, this again becomes doubly difficult because the conscience, overtaken by the cult leader, becomes an inner abuser and oppressor.

<3 Me too. Btw, Kristen S, author of Losing the Way wrote something on the subject back in 2008. On Breaking the Code of Silence Written by Kristen Skedgell Saturday, 29 March 2008 In order to speak, one must have a voice. Now this might seem obvious to most people but to people who have been abused in a cult, it's not always the case. The voice has been overtaken by another stronger voice, the voice of the leader. Through mind control, the cult leader imposes his will and views on the follower so the follower loses her own will and views. When mind control is accompanied by physical or sexual abuse, the task of speaking up becomes even more complicated and difficult. continued

I agree... if this gal wants to tell her story publicly, that's up to her. She's brave. And yes, I can see how it can represent difficult triggers sometimes. I understand Lindsay T (one of Victor Barnard's "maidens") has spoken with Karl Kahler... it might be interesting to see what Karl might be up to by digging into the VB saga.

I know this book isn't about TWI, but it is about the journey one young woman is taking after escape from 10 years of horrendous abuse in capitvity in Cleveland. It might provide some encouragement for those who suffered spiritual and sexual abuse in TWI. Finding Me by Michelle Knight.

Certainly not shocking at this point. Btw, I didn't post that to contradict you.

Apparently, VB has followers in and from Brazil. ----- New news, an additional report from Fox9.

I was thinking, "grifter" but Flim Flam fits well.

There likely have been multiple factors contribute to the delay. Two that I think are likely: Lazy prosecutor and public accountability. County attorneys have built-in rationalizations for procrastination. They can (almost) always claim that they don't believe they have enough evidence to secure a conviction. That was something cited in the Fox 9 news coverage. And the fact that county attorneys are elected positions, the public pressure brought to bear by the local news investigation was likely enough to light a fire under his butt. That said, there are still several obstacles to securing conviction, the first being finding him. All accounts seem to indicate, however, that VB is one seriously slick operator who probably thinks he can talk his way out of any jam. If his closest confidants believe that, maybe they will encourage him to turn himself in and let it play out in court. Others who knew VB's wife have been surprised she was not "smart enough" to see through his BS and let him get away with this stuff for so long. Indications seem to be that "smartness" has nothing to do with any of this.

Barnard had, as one former follower put it, Wierwille's spiritual DNA.

Having both a daughter and a granddaughter, here's how I feel about Victor Barnard...

Karl nailed it in quotes in this story.

Right, it doesn't particularly matter to me, but Kark Kahler says he and Barnard were in the same corps. Karl has spoken on the phone with Minnesota Public Radio and Fox 9 reporter Tom Lyden.