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Is Tithing mandated after Pentecost ?

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Will God not heal a person if they don't tithe to The Way International?

 

 

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Look around you. Do you see people who have been healed?  Yes, you do.  How many of those "tithe" to TWI?  Vanishingly few, if not to say, none.

Tithing is another issue and healing is not dependent upon it (even if TWI claimed it was).  

I'm reminded that Jesus told us to love the lord our God with all our heart, soul, mind and strength, not with just 10% of our being.  We are to acknowledge him in all our ways, not just some of them.  

Even so, we have fallible bodies: people (including great Christians) still get sick; all die, eventually.  What we do have, as Christians, is the peace of God in our hearts, that will strengthen us through all perils, dangers, evils, sicknesses.

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I was intrigued by this same issue, and so did some research on it.  Some of my work is based on research by Ernest L. Martin (his work here), and some is from what I worked on my own.  Following is a summary of what I found.

The Mosaic Law was very specific, the aspect of the tithe being no different.  The tithe was instituted so that the tribe of Levi would be supported because they owned no property and could not raise crops or livestock.  If you read the details of the tithe you'll see it specifies crops and animals.  These tithes were to be brought to the Temple in Jerusalem and put into the storehouse.  This was modified slightly, but basically that was it.  In Malachi there is a description of them NOT doing this.  There is no mention of contributing money even though there was money then; some people did work for money.  The only time money is involved is if the person lives so far away from the Temple that it would be impractical to bring the animal or crop tithe.  In that case, they were to sell their tithe, travel to the Temple, and then purchase the proper tithe.  That was what the money changers, the ones Jesus drove out and threw down their tables, were there for.  An important detail that is often missed or ignored was that this was for the nation of Israel only, not for the gentiles.

In the new testament Paul never mentions the tithe.  The monetary sharing among the believers was on a local level, to those that had need.  At one point Paul does help gather a large sharing for Jerusalem from among the believers in Corinth and the surrounding area, because there was a famine in Israel.  This is done only once, and it is not referred to as a tithe.

There is actually less validity today for the tithe than there is for honoring the Passover.  That's because the Passover meal isn't dependent on any conditions, so for a person still following the law honoring the Passover is okay.  But the tithe is dependent on conditions.  There is no longer a tribe of Levi conducting religious work at the Temple - there is no Temple.  So to tithe as described in the Mosaic law is actually illegal today because there is no way to send it to the Temple.

I hope this helps.

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On 10/17/2019 at 1:19 AM, Guest JkNorth said:

Will God not heal a person if they don't tithe to The Way International?

 

 

Not sure God will heal with just a tithe.  Might not start until abundantly sharing or plurality giving.

Less than abundant sharing is the tithe, and for that God won't send you his spit, if I remember correctly.  I'm assuming God's spit is what heals.  Just rub it in.

So short answer is no.

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Bolshevik, that was a serious question.  ACCORDING TO TWI, you need to give them all your money or God won't help you.   It's a system of paying protection money to a "God-Father" out of self-preservation and fear rather than giving cheerfully to a loving Father who loves you either way. 

 

God is Good Always.   Outside of twi, there's many happy Christians who aren't cowering in fear of God smiting them, or cowering in fear that God will let someone else smite them- all because they didn't donate enough money, or donate enough time, and so on.     There's never an exact amount for "arriving" because twi has to keep moving the goalposts.   Gave them all your time and money, and bad things STILL happened?  Well,  it's your fault still, so ANOTHER excuse is made up.   The sun and the rain are for all people, and bad things happen to good even as good things happen to bad people.    twi's system benefits twi and not the people.  

I've seen some miraculous healing for people who never tithed to anyone, from people who don't tithe.    So,  healing is not dependent upon tithing.   Taxidev addressed the tithe quite neatly above, so I won't get into specifics because I'll just repeat what he already said.   Tithing was for Israel for a specific reason and specific circumstances (none of which apply now even to Israel.)   Tithing was never mentioned in the Epistles as something we needed to do, and references in the Gospel were Jesus saying that people were doing it- it wasn't something Jesus went around teaching we had to do.  He addressed it when it came up.

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There are two questions.  The first is doctrinal.

The second question leads one to accept a rather subjective product while discussing a separate topic.

 

Edited by Bolshevik
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What TaxiDev said, which is exactly right.

I wasn't going to go there; opens too big a discussion for this Any Questions forum.  Mods can move, of course, if the thread gets too busy.

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11 hours ago, Bolshevik said:

Not sure God will heal with just a tithe.  Might not start until abundantly sharing or plurality giving.

Less than abundant sharing is the tithe, and for that God won't send you his spit, if I remember correctly.  I'm assuming God's spit is what heals.  Just rub it in.

So short answer is no.

:doh:  :confused:  :dance:  :beer:

Nicely done Bolshevik.

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Just to be clear, God will continue to spit whether you tithe or not. He just won't spit in your direction. Personally, I've never been all that keen on spit so maybe that's good news.

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