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  1. Hello A La!.........and hello to all you wonderful greasespotters who have posted on this thread!.........your hearts and compassion have been most inspiring........thank you! TWI'S ridiculous and emotionally cruel "teachings" regarding death and the dying, were rooted in the "great fear" common to mankind,....the fear of death!.....countless volumes, by thousands of great philosophical thinkers, have wrestled with this most primal of fears common to the human soul.....many have positted that most of the world's great religions owe their "genesis" to the quest to answer or eliminate this fear. my experience with twi's teachings is, that they were totally subjective and rooted in vic's personal fear of death and martindale's immature ignorance which compounded his own fear of death and lack of understanding regarding it.......both these "mogs" taught what was most convenient to them personally at the time, and,... according to the specific circumstances surrounding the death of various people,..... which "required" some sort of public "explanation" to alleviate their (vic's and martindale's) own personal fears, and handle the confusion caused by whatever questions those deaths raised. "accidental deaths" were always hyper-analyzed by these foolish mogs!.....always to prove that the accidents which caused the untimely deaths of the victims, were the fault of those victims!.....always, there was the public scrutiny as to where the dead disobeyed or missed "revelation" from god or the mogs, that would have avoided the accidents altogether, or, avoided the deaths caused by the victims' unbelief!.....this was always meant to prove vic's or martindale's "superior spiritual insight" into the "real causes" of the accidents or to highlight their superior "believing ability" to walk with god, and, thereby have "all the answers" to the unanswerable questions raised in the hearts of the victims' families and friends.......these public statements were nothing more than egotistical, self-serving, speechmaking on their part, and accomplished the opposite of the comfort vic and martindale could and should have provided to the grieving!.....it was arrogant, cruel, and hopelessly out of touch with reality! there was very little teaching given to twi clergy regarding funeral services for beleivers...... as a matter of fact, beyond the "edict" to push for a closed casket at the service or funeral home, the obvious scripture references to "the hope", and/or "the gathering together", and the positive focus encouraged for the eulogy content......there was just about NOTHING taught!.........actually, i never saw vic or the dancing prez ever officiate at any funeral the entire time i was in twi!! regarding non-accidental deaths of believers, there was general confusion amongst twi clergy as to how to handle funeral services.....so, the poor believers were stuck with whatever the personal sensibilities (or lack thereof) of the local corps or clergy were, regarding death and dying!.....needless to say, this caused an almost total lack of professional, comfort and support for the grieving families left behind!! my personal understanding of death and dying has been most powerfully influenced by my experience and training in my profession.......i have learned about the dignity of the human spirit (and its opposite), by providing end-of-life care in the hospital setting, and by having the privilege of working with and observing hospice nurses.........who, imho, are the greatest "living epistles" of caring for the dying and their loved ones, anywhere on the planet!!.....they are truly amazing and caring people who provide a service to their fellow humans that is incredibly admirable!...they have taught me more about the "right way" to perceive, understand, and accept the inevitable end of human life on earth than a thousand lifetimes of trying to ferret out twi's "teachings" on the subject could ever have provided!!.....their empathetic, tireless, and selfless care is objective, non-judgmental, and totally comforting to both patients and families!..... the art and science of their care is an outstanding human achievement, imho......there is no emotional cruelty inflicted by them.....there are no "excuses" made, there are no painful analyses put forth......just dignified, gracious, care to those who need it!!..........truly a beauty to behold! i'm sure A La and her siser can testify to the help hospice nurses provided for both A La's brother-in-law and her sister.......i'm sure they learned more about death and dying from them than they ever knew before......and, i'm sure they'll never forget those caregivers and the service they provided! death is the ugly, painful, part of the "circle of life"........no one is ever really "ready" for it until it's upon you.......no one ever knows how to "deal with it" until they have to......when that time comes, i hope they are lucky enough to have a loving family to provide support, a hospice nurse to provide care, and total freedom from any remnants of twi theology to provide for kindness and understanding!! i too, am sorry for your loss A La!......................................................................peace.
  2. GOOD EVENING ONCE MORE JEFF BLACKBURN AND JOHN LYNN!............ANOTHER 24 HOURS HAS COME AND GONE, AND I HAVE NOY YET SEEN A POST FROM YOU HERE IN REPLY TO THOSE HONEST QUESTIONS I ASKED ALMOST ONE MONTH AGO!..........YOU GUYS STILL LIVE HERE IN THE U.S.A., DON'T YOU?? Believing that “all truth is God’s truth,” we value learning whatever we can from other churches, ministries, Christian denominations, or religious traditions. We will therefore continue to scout out anything that could be of value to our community MANY "OTHER CHURCHES, MINISTRIES, CHRISTIAN DENOMINATIONS, OR RELIGIOUS TRADITIONS" ARE DISCUSSED, DEBATED, EXPOSED HERE AT THE GREASESPOT CAFE!......MAYBE YOU DON'T AGREE THAT THERE ARE ANY POSTERS HERE YOU MIGHT LEARN SOMETHING FROM, BUT THERE ARE MANY MEMBERS HERE AT THE SPOT WHO WOULD VALUE LEARNING FROM YOU WHAT YOUR ANSWERS TO MY QUESTIONS ARE!........MAYBE YOU COULD "SCOUT OUT" THIS THREAD AND POST A REPLY OR TWO???........THAT, I THINK, WOULD BE OF TREMENDOUS VALUE TO YOUR COMMUNITY AND OUR'S AS WELL!!........STILL PATIENTLY AWAITING YOUR REPLIES!!.......................THANKS !..............................PEACE.
  3. FRANKLY MY DEAR.......I DO GIVE A DAMN!!!!.......HAPPY BIRTHDAY BELLE!!!........MAY YOU CELEBRATE MANY MORE ANNIVERSARIES OF YOUR 29TH IN THE BEST OF HEALTH AND WITH A PROSPEROUS SOUL!!!..............ALWAYS ENJOY YOUR POSTS AND YOUR UNIQUE BELLE STYLE!......YOU DA BEST, BABY!!........PEACE!
  4. hap!!!.......great pics!!!!.......beautiful family!!!!.................thanks for re-posting thses!!!..........peace!
  5. HELLO AGAIN JEFF BLACKBURN AND JOHN LYNN.................YET AGAIN, NO POST FROM YOU GUYS!...................YOU ARE BOTH STILL WITH CES/STF ARE'NT YOU? Without being exclusive, elitist, or isolated, we value our own vision of Christian faith and practice, and therefore seek to be independent of any controlling influences from other Christian groups or denominations. WELL THEN, HOW ABOUT A POST OR TWO??..........MY QUESTIONS SEEM TO ME TO AFFORD YOU EACH AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE YOUR CURRENT "VISION OF CHRISTIAN FAITH AND PRACTICE "!........I'M NOT TRYING TO "CONTROL" YOU!........SEEMS TO ME YOU'RE BEING "ELITIST" AND "ISOLATED" BY NOT JUST PROVIDING A SIMPLE REPLY HERE AT YOUR CES FORUM...............WHAT IS YOUR "OWN VISION" OF CHRIST-LIKE FAITH AND PRACTICE?...........IS YOUR OLD GREASESPOT NEIGHBORHOOD NOT EXCLUSIVE ENOUGH FOR YOU TO RETURN AND POST ONE MORE TIME??..............STILL WAITING FOR YOU TO SHARE SOME OF YOUR VALUES WITH US!.................PEACE.
  6. thanks dooj!!!!.......i just laughed hard for 35 minutes!!!!!...........oh man.....that felt good!!!.................peace.
  7. HI THERE ONCE AGAIN JEFF BLACKBURN AND JOHN LYNN!.......GAME 4 TONIGHT!.......THOUGHT YOU TWO MIGHT SLIP IN A POST BEFORE THE GAME.......BUT, AGAIN, NO POSTS FROM EITHER OF YOU!.......THERE'S STILL TIME....... We value heart-felt obedience to God’s Word and encourage “Christ-like” behavior. We value the term “Christ-like,” as opposed to “Christian,” because the term “Christian” is colored by people’s experience of Christians more than by Jesus Christ himself. DO YOU GUYS CONSIDER YOUR IGNORING OF YOUR FORUM HERE AT THE SPOT TO BE "CHRIST-LIKE BEHAVIOR"??...........WHAT DO YOU THINK CHRIST JESUS MIGHT CONSIDER YOUR "BEHAVIOR" HERE TO BE?........I GUESS YOU DO THINK OF YOURSELVES AS "CHRISTIANS" RATHER THAN MAKING AN ATTEMPT TO BE "CHRIST-LIKE" WHEN IT COMES TO YOUR FELLOW MEMBERS IN THE BODY OF CHRIST HERE AT THE GREASESPOT CAFE!.............WE TOO "VALUE HEART-FELT OBEDIENCE TO GOD'S WORD", ESPECIALLY BY SELF-PROCLAIMED "CHRIST-LIKE" LEADERS.......I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DEMONSTRATE THE VALUE YOU PLACE IN YOUR PREFERRED "TERM" BY POSTING A REPLY OR TWO HERE IN YOUR FORUM!............SURELY, THAT WOULD AFFORD YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXHIBIT SOME OF THAT "CHRIST-LIKE BEHAVIOR" YOU VALUE!...............THANKS FOR YOUR REPLY!................................PEACE.
  8. hey skyrider and polar bear!.............how youse guys doin'?.......... "When the indoctrination process started old LOY would say VP told me to try to get rid of the weak ones" "The corps program.........Victor Wierwille-stein's "creation." Sure, the dancing prez always took his authority from what vic "told him"!!.........he had none of his own......it was all implied by what vic told him!.......and vic successfully created many "frankensteins" by what he "told them"...........this was his practice of "plausible denial"........used most effectively in combination with the "lockbox" bs!..........the monstrosities that vic created were the people like martindale and other hapless morons whose entire identities were created by vic in a very covert, underhanded mind game..........just like he tried to do with TFI!.........but, as i said on another thread, ole vic could never break his son-in-law, john ..........that's why vic basically "dumped" TFI for his own creation, LEAD!.........his "reasoning", (as explained to the corps back then), for dumpning TFI was because of john's refusal to take the holocaust memorial in israel off of his official bible land tours itinerary, despite vic's outrageious verbal harrangues against john's determination to honor his israeli hosts by paying homage to one of their most important "holy sites".........john never bought vic's insane holocaoust denial rap......and, rightfully so i might add!......he saw it for the incredible, and irrelevant bs that it was!.......another "proof" vic used in his attempt to discredit the son-in-law who refused to be broken!!..........the pow camp perversion of TFI was all vic's doing!........after all, he did hold the "pursestrings" to the property at the time.....another damoclean sword he tried to break john with.......but john, again fought his way out from under it, assuming the debt himself, thus effectively severing the last vestages of vic's control over TFI!.........and the final reason for dumping TFI altogether to let more of vic's faithful frankensteins pull off his "vision" for LEAD! the fact that vic could never break his son-in-law and bring him under his control, is the real reason TFI got dumped!........you see,......martindale flunked at TFI!.....his attempt at being the hero/leader of the failed "escape attempt" which caused the end of the pow camp at that lead session, was roundly criticized by john s. in martindale's final TFI evaluation.......this evaluation was used effectively by vic to break martindale down in order to continue with vic's plans in creating the monster of hypocrisy that martindale was to become for him!.......martindale "beat himself up" over this failure.......after all it was so obvious now to vic that the "special one" was a weak failure...martindale had to re-double his efforts at making this whole pow style corps "training" his own in order to prove to his father in the word that he really was'nt a falilure after all!!....."weed out the weak ones" in order to continually prove to yousrsef you are'nt one of them!!.....remember, the report said that in his feeble attempt to "lead" the "escape" he had "cost the lives" of most of his fellow "prisoners"!......what a way to run a leadership program like the corps......killing off all your fellows!!..........so, whatever vic "told him" to do to remedy his failure and keep his twi future secure, martindale did with all vigor and fervor!!.........that's why he was so rabid in his use of the "break down" style of "training" with the corps!........it was constant reassurance to himself and vic that he was no longer a failure who could'nt be trusted!........so he blindly and wilfully carried out vic's real vision of what the corps training should be all the while deriving his authority from whatever it was that vic "told him"..........which provided all the plausible denial vic could ever want!!!...........if martindale screwed over someone really badly, based on whatever vic "told him" vic could very easily deny ever "telling" martindale anything of the sort..........which he often did......stabbing the hapless okie in the back to cover his own rotten arse!!!.........vic enjoyed playing all ends against the middle.........he did it all the time!!!............great case in point.........martindale's ignorant "excuse" for his flagrant adultery and sexual abuse of his sisters in christ was, "Dr. Wierwille told me that if i did'nt 'loosen up' in this category of life, i'd never be a great leader or lover of god's people"!!!............talk about providing vic with plausible denial!!!...........what an idiot!!...........but, you see, whatever vic "told him" was gospel!!.......it was always "godbreathed"........and vic could always deny it whenever necessary to cover his own tracks.........or use it to browbeat the hapless victims of his perversions into submission whenever necessary!!..........a true monster of hypocrisy if there ever was one!!! vic was a mean-spirited, alcoholic........imo........a sociopathic, narcissistic, serial sexual predator who "got off" playing with people's lives in order to satisfy his own sadistic perversions...........this has to be said plainly.......no holds barred.........even then there are many who refuse to allow their idols to be tarnished by the truth and facts!!!..........part of vic's illness provided him with the "gift" of manipulation..........he was a grade A manipulator and seducer of people, who sought absolute control over every aspect of the lives of his victims!........an inherent part of his twisted personality.......add to that willing, hapless, morons with no sense of their own identity, no personal integrity, like martindale, and you've got one helluva frankenstein monster to do your dirty work.........and leave ole vic "smelling like a rose"!!!..............plausible denial!..............another tool in the "master's hands"!..........................peace.
  9. thanks for your answer, WG!.......oh yeah!......jm major alkie and incredibly,....a sleazy womanizer to boot!!!!......always heavily overshadowed by his wife.....a very intelligent and kind lady.......how she chose such a loser is beyond me!!!!........but, at least she eventually freed herself from that horrible bond!......jm was a good guy in ca before entering the 4th corps......but he was way over his head in the corps.......unqualified for any position upon graduation.......as he proved repeatedly........sad..........peace.
  10. hey there you two buckeye saints!!!..........who were the lc's when you got tortured??........hy?......or, jm?..........just wondering.......................peace.
  11. hi coolchef!....bob hanan.....married to ann whitaker......8th corps!.....groovy christians from rye, ny!......limb leaders of maine.....until pop.....then they joined up with geer.....and i have'nt heard from or of them since!!!!.......last i did hear.....and this is 16 or 17 years ago.....they were still in maine.....pushing the koolaid for geer!..............let us know if ya find them, coolchef..........................peace.
  12. HELLO AGAIN JEFF BLACKBURN AND JOHN LYNN!.......STOPPED BY YOUR FORUM HERE JUST BEFORE GAME 3 OF THE WORLD SERIES TONIGHT!........WAS HOPING TO SEE A POST FROM YOU GUYS, BUT STILL NONE!........THAT'S OK......I'M STILL WAITING TO SEE A POST FROM YOU SOON.......... We value the Body of Christ, and seek to be a catalyst for true unity among God’s people based on the truth of His Word, particularly the commandment to love one’s neighbor as oneself (Matt. 22:38). I STILL CONSIDER MYSELF AS A "NEIGHBOR" OF YOUR'S HERE AT THE SPOT!.......I TOO AM A "MEMBER IN PARTICULAR" OF THE BODY OF CHRIST YOU SAY YOU VALUE!.....SOMEHOW, I GET THE FEELING YOU DON'T "VALUE" THIS NEIGHBORHOOD OF THE BODY OF CHRIST AS MUCH AS YOU DID EARLIER THIS YEAR WHEN YOU SPENT SO MUCH TIME WITH US...........WHY NOT?................STILL HOPING FOR A POST FROM YOU GUYS!........................PEACE.
  13. ooopps!..................editted to avoid a double post!......sowwy!
  14. hi watered garden!...........and skyrider!.....and all!!! john som---ille has a phd in physical education......he has been married to mary wie===lle for over 30 years now.......he is a high ranking officer in the usmc reserves, (if he is not yet retired from the reserves).......he was an assistant to woody hayes at ohio state university when woody was the head football coach there......his brother tim and john started the way's "work" in north carolina at ecu.......john is a viet nam veteran......vic used to tell us that john volunteered for duty in viet nam in order to prove that the revelation and power manifestations are real and work as vic taught them to wayfers in the advanced class.....john is a decorated officer for his outstanding military service in viet nam, as well as numerous other outstanding achievements in the marine corps......he has also worked in an advisory capacity with the idf.....israeli defense forces....in israel.....work for which he was recognized again by the u.s. military, as well as the idf.......i first met john in 1972 when several of us way east branch coordinators were invited to hq by vic after the firing of steve heefner during the ac in rye, ny in april of 72...........to see vic's "heart" and the "heart of the ministry" so's we would stick with twi and not "run off" with heefner and others after the "not so subtle" power play by twi in it's complete takeover of the way east..........at that time, john was in charge of "college outreach" for twi and was the man who designed the physical trainng program that was part of the corps training back then...........he was definitely a "man's man" during the entire time that i knew him back then.......absolutely respected by us corps "kids" and, generally respected throughout the ministry as far as i could tell............he also coordinated twi's original holy land tours.......and led several of them with great success and excitement back in the early 70's.........my personal experiences with john were always positive and i held in him in high regard, as i do to this day....although my last personal contact with him was back in the late 70's...... john was his own man.......during my first year in da corps (the way corps, that is)....we took his class on old testament history.....which was excellent btw......and i began to see the first glimpses of his conflict with vic..........glimpses that became less and less private as that year unfolded..........he had a "knack" for really pizzing vic off with his unflinching honesty and "sarcastic" humor in the face of some really intense "facemeltings" directed at him by vic, both pubicly and privately!!.........vic would criticize john publicly about something he would teach or say during the old t class, and john would throw it right back at vic.......it was great to observe!!!!..........vic often publicly ranted about john's "ego problem" with vic..........and i mean rant!!.....you know, that purple-faced, neck-vein popping kinda rant that only vic could perform!!.........made the dancing prez look like a mickey mouse version of ranting!!..........my take on these rants??.......vic was deeply jealous of john's obvious intelligence and the real achievements of john academically, as a true military "hero", and at his refusal to compromise his own integrity as a "man's man" in the face of the vicious verbal assaults and personal attacks from his father-in-law!!..........he was jealous of john because john was real, not just a pompous phoney like his father-in-law!.....vic feared john, because, in spite of vic's best shots, vic could not break his son-in-law!!...i had several profound, personal conversations with john about my observations of his relationship with vic.......honest, probing and quite revealing conversations for which i am still grateful today to john for engaging in with me......... in 1974, john left hq and set up the total fitness instiute (tfi) in north fork, ca with the financial assistance of j--n s. l--n and the "blessing" of vic..........tfi was to become the real testing and training ground for the way corps folks.........the experience which would really show vic who his toughest future leaders and workers would be..........it was also open to public sessions which were like twi's version of outward bound, and it rapidly gained a popularity among the corps and non-corps attendees as a real test of a believer's mettle when it came to operating all-9-all-the- time..........it was the precursor to LEAD, which was the vic perverted and controlled version of what john had in mind for tfi!.........it was during the tfi sessions of the spring of 1975 that vic first "ordered" john do the pow camp thingy...... i was on the field in my interim year corps assignment (we were the first corps to have one).......and my lc was one of the attendees at the tfi session where martindale and other "top" corps leaders were given the pow treatment..........they were exposed to the illuminati tapes by myron cohen, and the tapes on music by the marx fella, etc.......they were tied together at points, kept locked up in heavy cardboard boxes which were pounded on from the outside all night, sleep deprived, exposed to heavy-handed interrogation techniques, blaringly loud tapes and music, told that the usa had been invaded and taken over by the russians, and, that they would be broken from standing on the word.........it was a very real experience of what a pow camp might have been like if those circumstances regarding the fall of the usa had been true..........martindale was not the "only survivor" of this pow camp passionplay..........he started an "escape attempt" type of maneuver during which he caused the "deaths" of most of his fellow "prisoners" by his feeble attempt at being the hero/leader........a maneuver for which he was roundly criticized in his final tfi evaluation which was written by john som---ille on each of the participants..........there were several participants who were indeed "broken" during this experiment.......and their "reward" was humiliation in front of the corps and they were never really "trusted" again with choice leadership assignments because of their proven weakness in the face of the enemy!!!...........the participants were sworn to secrecy.....so that the pow experiments could continue unhindered during future tfi sessions..........but, as you can tell from the amount of info i gathered from my lc upon his return, the secret got out fast.........but the pow experiments continued through the tfi session of that spring and summer until october, 1975..........when there were some serious physical and psycho-emotional injuries that occurred during tfi...........all of which, vic blamed on the "total lack of believing" on the part of those "injured"............i did my tfi trip in november, 1975..........and although several of the pow situations were thrown at us.....the pow scenario itself had been watered down so as to avoid any further injuries......... the tfi experience for the in-rez corps involved the following "rules"..........each tfi group was to hitch-hike to and from north fork in "couples", that is, you chose your travelling partner from among the group........we were encouraged not to choose our spouses, but my spouse was under 20 at the time so i refused to let her go with anyone else..........each person was given a $20 bill so as not to get busted for vagrancy if stopped or questioned by state or local police while hitch-hiking.........it was made plain that if you did not arrive at north fork with the entire $20 you would be immediatley turned back to hitch-hike home.......or, if you made it back without the $20 intact you would receive a failing final evaluation.........you were allotted 72 hours maximum to make the trip each way.......if you took more than 72 hours to get there, you were again immediately turned back to hitch-hike home, refused participation in the tfi program......if you took more than 72 hours to get back home, you again were giving a failing final evaluation.........my wife and i were dropped off at a truck stop near I-75 and it's juncture with I-70 at about 6pm and we then had 72 hours to make our way to north fork, ca........by hook or by crook...........we made it in 70 hours.........no sleep, no stopping, both our $20 bills in pocket!!...........i remember how sad i felt for the unfortunate few who took longer than 72 hours to get there........i literally cried as i watched them turned around after their grueling trip out to ca, no food, no rest.......just a facemelting phone call from vic telling them they flunked and that they better make it home on time or they'd be kicked out of the corps!!..........i watched 6 people have to go through that bs!............ before i left for tfi, i was called to vic's office for a "meetring" with him.........we sat out on the porch by his office, smoking a couple of cigarrettes..........vic asked me to keep our conversation "confidential".........he said that he knew that i had become "close" to john som---ille, during my first year in-rez........he said he knew that i could "talk with john "man-to-man"..........he said that john's "unbridled ego" was going to ruin tfi.........he just was not "seeing" what father wanted vic to do with tfi.......he said john was once again "fighting him" (vic) on the "guidance" god was providing........and he asked me to try to talk with john about his "ego problem" with his father-in-law, hoping that maybe i could "get through to him"..............so, on a cliff overhanging the sierra nevada mountains, having just successfully scaled jackass rock, with only john and jack wilson with me (i had been "banned" from the group assault on jackass rock the day before for taking an "unauthorized picture" of two lindas relieving their bladders behind a log while we were all tied together by a single rope for the day's hike to the foot of jackass rock.........lol!).........while jack was busy preparing for the descent, i had my "man-to-man" talk with john..........one of the greatest conversations i ever had with any wayfer in my life, brutally honest, refreshingly quiet in tone with mutual respect........needless to say,.....i never really "got through" to john about his "ego problem" with his father-in-law!!..........by the end of my first question and his respnse, i saw there was absolutely no need for me to..........there was not a thing wrong with john's ego..........the problems were with the ego of his father-in-law!!!........... soooo,...........what's my point???...............the entire confrontation session you poor FLO folks had with that guy who probably lived in a van down by the olentangy river was just another perverted distortion of what had been a good idea of john som---ille's that was perverted, twisted, and morphed into another psychosocial torture mechanism designed by vic to break down and control the most willing and faithful followers of his way in ohio..........arranged by a lc who was as afraid of the whole thing as you were, but who was more afraid of what his "father-in-the-word" would do or say if he did'nt carry out his orders!!............i hope your "facilitator" was not bill m--ze.........but it very well could have been..........bill was a terrific dale carnegie isnstructor whom vic "took under his wing" and also eventually destroyed what started out as a unique and valuable service to the corps........bill was tied to vic all the way back to the chimes hour youth caravan daze........he was almost like an "adopted son" of vic's,.......and we all know too well what that can do to a man!............ sorry for the length of this post.......but the memories sometimes come in waves..........................peace.
  15. GOOD EVENING JEFF BLACKBURN AND JOHN LYNN!.......I'M HERE AGAIN HOPING TO SPOT A REPLY FROM YOU TO THE QUESTIONS I HAVE ASKED................ONCE AGAIN,.......THERE IS'NT ONE!!......................WHY? I will do good to all men, seeking opportunities to be of service and show the love of God that dwells in me. But I will be especially good to my fellow Christians, recognizing that they are God’s people whom He has graced as my equals. I will do my personal best to be united with them against our common foe, in accordance with the common standard of God’s Word and the one spirit that empowers us all. I DO NOT PRESUME TO BE YOUR "EQUAL".............HOWEVER, AS I'VE STATED BEFORE, I AM A CHRISTIAN.......AS ARE MANY FELLOW GREASESPOTTERS...............MANY ARE NOT......WE ARE, AFTER ALL, A JOYFULLY DIVERSE COMMUNITY OF MOSTLY "EX-WAYFERS" AS ARE YOU AND MOST, IF NOT ALL OF YOUR MINISTRY'S BOARD OF DIRECTORS!.............CERTAINLY, BY YOUR PUBLICLY DECLARED CODE OF CONDUCT, WE CAN BE CONSIDERED WORTHY OF YOUR BEING "ESPECIALLY GOOD" TO US, CAN'T WE??.................STILL HOPING TO HEAR FROM YOU........THAT SURE WOULD BE "GOOD".........PEACE.
  16. HI AGAIN JEFF BLACKBURN AND JOHN LYNN!.........I WAS HOPING TO FIND A POST HERE FROM YOU GUYS TODAY..............HAVE YOU SEEN THIS THREAD ON YOUR FORUM YET??.....................THERE ARE MANY FOLKS STILL WONDERING WHAT YOUR ANSWERS MIGHT BE!.................... I will actively work to manifest the fruit of the spirit (Galatians 5:22,23) as the basic godly attitudes and character traits that ought to govern my life, and give particular attention to those traits that are most difficult for me to evidence. I will not follow my “nature” into sin, making excuses and rationalizing my inappropriate behavior, but will live by the power of the spirit to obey the Word of God. LOVE, JOY, PEACE, GENTLENESS, MEEKNESS , TEMPERANCE, FAITH, GOODNESS AND LONGSUFFERING...............ANY ONE OR ANY COMBINATION OF THESE WONDERFUL FRUITS WOULD PROVIDE YOU WITH "APPROPRIATE BEHAVIOR" TO ENABLE A RESPONSE OF SOME KIND TO THE QUESTIONS AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS THREAD...............NO EXCUSES NECESSARY!......................THANKS FOR MAKING YOUR PERSONAL COMMITMENT TO YOUR CODE OF CONDUCT A LIVING REALITY HERE AT THE GREASESPOT CAFE!.......STILL LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR REPLY!..............................................PEACE.
  17. Hey you cwazy squiwwel!!!!..................HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!........................best wishes for another year of nutty abundance for you!!!.......................peace!
  18. thanks wordwolf for pointing me to the "apology"...............but it's only limited to the last line of that horrendous post???.............that's absolutely pathetic oldiesman!...........that's the one line that to me is the least offensive!!.......i thought , mistakenly, apparently, that you actually experienced a moment of lucidity, and apologized for that entire post!!!..............that's why i asked the questions i asked.......................... do you have any relationships with women in your life that encourage you to post the things you do and honestly support what you say????.............or do you just come up with these disturbed, perverted rants on your own???...........i'm still relatively new here at the spot, so i'm wondering if you are just playing "devil's advocate" or do you really believe the things you've posted on this thread???..............seriously................do you just have a sick sense of humor, or do you really believe all the things you've posted here???..........................please advise....................thanks.....................................peace!
  19. GOOD EVENING JEFF BLACKBURN AND JOHN LYNN.........................ANOTHER DAY OF NO REPLIES?.................THAT'S DISAPPOINTING!.......................... I will not seek vengeance against those who wrong me, but will forgive them and seek reconciliation according to the principles of God’s Word. I will reject small-minded and petty attitudes that demand of others what I am unwilling to give. I will acknowledge the evils of misjudgment and recognize that what I detest in others lives in me as well. I will acknowledge that identifying the root of sin in my own life is a more compelling project than presuming to correct others without first correcting myself. HAVE I "WRONGED" EITHER OF YOU BY ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS OF YOU IN POST #1?.................I DON'T THINK I HAVE, BUT IF YOU GUYS THINK SO, THEN I ASK YOUR FORGIVENESS................I ALSO ASK, AGAIN, HONESTLY AND POLITELY.............WOULD YOU PLEASE BE SO KIND AS TO OFFER SOME RESPONSES TO MY QUESTIONS?.........................THANK YOU.................I CONTINUE TO AWAIT A REPLY.......................................PEACE.
  20. Oldiesman!...............you "have already apologized for making that statement"????...............you have???..................where??.................when??...........to whom have you apologized??..........and, most importantly, WHY HAVE YOU APOLOGIZED???.......................................peace!
  21. hello everyone!........................larry.......your language, attitudes and behavior speak for themselves............and they depict a person full of rage who can throw a "hissy fit" at the drop of a hat....................imo....you have demonstrated some of the most self-serving and discourteous posting habits i have seen here at the greasespot!...............unless you get your way, on your terms within your time frame.......you seem incapable of calm, respectful dialogue with anyone who chooses not to agree with you...................this is not a common posting pattern of many other members here...... but, apparently it is a common posting habit of mr. moore.................i did a google search of "larry n moore".................very interesting what came across my computer screen!..............it seems larry, that you have inflicted yourself on many other forums with a similar posting pattern to the one you have displayed here! your record speaks for itself.............in much the same way it does here at the greasespot cafe!!..............it seems your posting personality is "equally engaging" on many other sites as it has been here!............maybe you'll hurry to try to cover your tracks...........but, in the meantime, why don't those of you who "want larry back" do the same search i did and check out larry n moore on some of his other "dumping grounds"????.............you've been a member here since may of this year...............in that time, you have chosen to wear out your welcome instead of enjoying it................why not return to your many other sites, if the greasespot is so "unkind" or "unfair" to you...............why not spread your joy around where you've been before instead of "torturing" yourself here at the greasespot???? better yet, larry..............why not start your very own website, where you can be "the boss"???...........spend some time talking to yoursef the way you talk to others and see how you feel about yourself.............be your own moderator and fight with yourself..........turn your rage upon yourself and see how you react to it................maybe then you'll understand how you've treated the posters and moderators here at the spot..............maybe then you'll feel for yourself what it's like for the real world to have to deal with the real larry n moore!!...............maybe...............maybe not!.................................peace.
  22. HI JEFF BLACKBURN AND JOHN LYNN!...............................HOW ARE YOU GUYS THIS TUESDAY EVENING?...............CHECKING IN HERE AT YOUR FORUM ONCE AGAIN, HOPING TO READ A POST FROM EITHER OR BOTH OF YOU.......................NOT TONIGHT, EH?................................. I will recognize the authority of God and the Lord Jesus Christ and submit to all godly authority derived from them to the limits of my conscience as it is educated by the Word of God. I will renounce rebellion and self-will and seek to serve and not to rule or be a master over others. I will choose behaviors that will encourage godliness, peace and reconciliation. I will live in such a way that if everyone followed my example there would be peace and good will among men. MANY HERE AT THE SPOT WOULD CONSIDER YOUR CHOICE TO POST A REPLY TO MY OPENING POST ON THIS THREAD A GODLY SERVICE TO US......... IT WOULD CERTAINLY "ENCOURAGE GODLINESS, PEACE AND RECONCILIATION", DON'T YOU AGREE?.................IT WOULD ALSO CERTAINLY AFFORD YOU BOTH THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE AN "EXAMPLE" WHICH WOULD ENCOURAGE "PEACE AND GOOD WILL" AMONG US!..................................PEACE.
  23. dear dmiller!.............happy pickin' birthday!.................now that you've hit the ole double nickle.......keep your pedal to the metal and keep your fingers on those fretboards!!!!!...................wishing you a year filled with life's sweetest melodies.............all strings "attached", in tune and vibrating with abundance!!!............peace!
  24. VIVE LA REVOLUTION!!!!!..........BE A COW AMBASSADOR NOW!!!!!.........................OFF DA PIGS!!!!!!!...................................PEACE!............................LOL!
  25. LOL!..................HAP!...................got no storeage room for the "bull"!.............but just for the eeewwwwwwwwww of it....................got any rawkie mountain oystahs?????????......................................LOL!
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